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SUN STOPED GIVE LIGHT
mL or mR first will get information about the problem ?




mL---150000000 ---M---150000000 km----mR ---- 20 km/s-->

20 km/s = constant motion




mL or mR first will see the problem smile
( beter we can say first will stop see SUN )


ABOVE PROBLEM EXPLEIN THAT CONSTANT MOTION = CRYSTAL ASYMETRY

Ok I showed that mass mR escape form information
about that SUN stoped work

below I showing test in my home ( What You think ?) I can measure constant velocity or not ???

>>>maroszAD.JPG





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Who cares is more the point smile

Thread title is correct but .. stupid question!!!

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mL or mR will be first who get info ?

please use any theory You like ( You can use my idea if You like )

why above question is important ?


WHAT IF ???
not exist 20 km/s

What if exist 20 km/s





Do You like study problem ?

above I showed You doppler or other efect ?




Everything is relative Your post also ????


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WHY WE HAVE WINER OR SUMMER ?

for many people right now it is only 66.66 degree problem
( I'm sorry exist more info ... )





HOW TO BUILD VERY PRECISION GPS SYSTEM without SATELITES !!!
ONLY INTERNAL SIGNAL

WE NEED ONLY THREE CONSTANT VELOCITY
AND ASTRONOMY TIME ALGORITMS



ZERO GPS SIGNAL PROBLEM ?



WHY BIG FISH ( whales ) like Infra sound music

Big fish inside head has got big empty chamber inside chamber small source of signal that is able travel without air




HOW TO MEASURE AIRPLANE SPEED ???






EXPLAIN DARK MATTER PROBLEM AND BLACK HOLES MODEL



I SEE AIRPLANE BUT I CAN NOT HEAR AIRPLAIN ?
WHAT IF I NOT SEE AND NOT HEAR AIRPLAINE




DOPPLER EFECT IT IS NOT ONLY RED/BLUE SHIFT it is also APPARENT DISTANCE SHIFT !!!


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Can you read .. I DON'T CARE.

You work out who gets it first and why that's all you do make stuff up, it's not testable and you will simply lie about whatever I or science say.

You choose an answer and fine with me that's the universe as you see it in your crazy head.


At the end of the day the question has exactly ZERO relevance to me or science .. we aren't going to throw away theories that are used to provide the basis for QM, particle physics and atomic structure for some idiot who thinks he can tell us about some light in space when he doesn't even understand what a light is laugh

Make up you own answer, you always do ... who cares ... not me.

Ask someone else perhaps they might care ... ANYONE OUT THERE CARE OR WANT TO COMMENT?

ML or MR you choose it's fine by me.

Hell I am willing to say I believe you stupidity if it will shut you up.

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DEAR ORAC DO YOU REALY NOT UNDERSTAND BELOW PICTURES ?

during time T light from laser ( inside rocket) made distance "a"
can we recognize and measure by sensors on opposite walls how meny meters made rocket ?



WHAT WE HAVE IN BOOKS ( MODERN PHYSICS right now is empty )




C is absolute
above method = that we can directly compare C to constant! Vo
(Vo constant rocket's velocity in space )

Mathematical Evidence
that space and time are absolute !!!

Vo = distance / time
not exist function that have relative arguments and give absolute resoult The end of Evidence

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So get in your rocket and do the test and report the result to me laugh

So I am just saying yeah sure I believe you wink

If you choose to think about it you will work out what will actually happen laugh

Again it is not important what I think ... why do you care what I think?

You are the messiah what does it matter why I can't understand you massive intelligence and enlightenment?

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Physics it is not religion

You graduate univrsitet so You schould lear respect for somone that showing You own arguments supported by facts

Michelson Morley get Nobel Prize for test and tool
I already schowed tool test and method how to evaluate problem


Your post about light transmision to media are very nice
apparent distance is very important for physics
( classical and QM )


Two mass and apparent distance ?

two mass on table in Your room

m -----M -- 220 km/s --->

m -----M -- 30 km/s --->

( gravitation forces between mass m-M and motion has strong relation gravitation = wave. Important is apparent point where signal started .Important is distance to apparent point !! not real distance that You can measure )

Think about atomic clock inside airplane ?

e---C---------e ----> (electron-----center )


without my above posts You not have good tools to evaluate below picture ( you don't know distance and forces ) You drink tea without suger !!!





Story of the image => http://io9.com/the-first-image-ever-of-a-hydrogen-atoms-orbital-struc-509684901

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Correct I do respect facts but you don't give me facts you give me garbage which you call facts either because you are crazy or stupid or both.


Here is a psychological Question I want you to answer?


Of all the possible experiments you could think of to test your theory why pick the rocket experiment ... an experiment that is untestable?


Think carefully Maciej Marosz no rockets exist and the length of rocket is to short to test the speed of light no electronics is fast enough not here not for probably hundreds of years ... so why pick that particular example.


Would you like the answer, the answer you have in your mind that you refuse to face?


YOU DON'T WANT TO TEST YOUR THEORY BECAUSE YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER IS WRONG.


Science is quite clear about what will happen and in fact we even engineer such tests. Unlike you we aren't afraid to put theories to the test we really don't care who is right or wrong we just care what is correct.


So ready here is a small problem for you and galileo it has a long name

Kaufmann–Bucherer–Neumann experiments:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaufmann-Bucherer-Neumann_experiments

=> The Kaufmann–Bucherer–Neumann experiments measured the dependence of the inertial mass (or momentum) of an object on its velocity. The historical importance of this series of experiments performed by various physicists between 1901 and 1915 is due to the results being used to test the predictions of special relativity.


SO HERE IS A FACT Maciej Marosz ... GET IT A FACT

=>Since then, many additional experiments concerning the relativistic mass-energy-momentum relation have been conducted, including measurements of the deflection of electrons, all of them confirming special relativity to high precision. Also in modern particle accelerators, the predictions of special relativity are routinely confirmed.

GET IT THAT IS A SCIENCE FACT



Not a made up Maciej Marosz stupidity a science fact.


Modern particle accelerators including the LHC wouldn't work if relativity was wrong ... GET IT Maciej Marosz ... THAT IS A FACT.

You have wasted enough peoples time with this rubbish.

I know I am sick of wasting time on this rubbish.


NOW GO AWAY AND ANNOY SOME OTHER SCIENCE FORUM IF YOU WANT TO THINK YOU WON AND WE ACCEPTED YOUR RUBBISH THEN FINE BELIEVE THAT BUT STOP WASTING PEOPLE'S TIME.

In science we can't just ignore experiments that show an idea to be wrong .. YOUR RUBBISH IS FALSIFIED.

Science doesn't care what you think and I don't care what you think they are the facts.

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I CAN NOT SEE ON DRAWING
FORM YOUR LINK VELOCITY's ARROW PHOTOGRAPHIC PLATE !!!



220 km/s + 30 km/s + ... + ... +

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaufmann-Bucherer-Neumann_experiments


DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA ???

PLEASE REPEAT MR JJ TOMAS TEST ALL 3 D DIRECTION in one time !
AND MEASURE MASS ( YOU WILL HAVE SIMILAR PROBLEM TO BELOW )


FINALY YOU WILL GET THIS WHAT IS MERITUM OF BELOW PICTURE
inside Your link they use below words

At this time, the electromagnetic mass was separated into "transverse" and "longitudinal" mass, and was sometimes denoted as "apparent mass", while the invariant Newtonian mass was denoted as "real mass".[A 1][A 2]

in my opinion they must write old equations respect to zero

below rocket ( perpendicular direction ? parallel direction )




What You Think this man is strong or smart and he know how to use perpendicular direction



My test in home ( bulb + camera ) = that we can measure constant !!! constant !!! velocity

We can recognize resistance that feel finger during push mass M perpendicular or parallel to constant Earth's velocity

( in Poland we can not use ideal equal water level table
in my home I must use about 40 degree to have parallel direction to 220 km/s )

Inside all OLD books - classical mechanic ( nobody is making test m ---> <----m mass m hit mass m on table that have got 40 degree table must be ideal parallel to water level ? )

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Dear Orac
Thank You very much for Your link



Kaufmann–Bucherer–Neumann experiments:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaufmann-Bucherer-Neumann_experiments


Inside link they are using Ideal tool for test

We must repet above test and add info about 30 km/s and 220 km/s and 20 km/s and ...


VERY IMPORTANT PARAGRAPH !!!
At this time, the electromagnetic mass was separated into "transverse" and "longitudinal" mass, and was sometimes denoted as "apparent mass", while the invariant Newtonian mass was denoted as "real mass".[A 1][A 2] On the other hand, it was the belief of the German theoretician Max Abraham that all mass would ultimately prove to be of electromagnetic origin, and that Newtonian mechanics would become subsumed into the laws of electrodynamics.[A 3]

here is velocity map( important is LAB position and astronomy time )




they use "real mass"
for me real mass is constant
but
real mass can have different velocity
respect to apparent point ( apparent point = coordination system where is mass was short time in past in that point )

different mass it is nothing strange it is different INERTIA ! ( if You hit wall by car and you not have belt You will joust fly without friction Your body will continue your motion)

what if Earth will hit stationary point

THERE IS ONLY ONE ABSOLUTE DIRECTION WHERE WILL FLY ALL BODIES FROM EARTH AFTER CRASH ( JIM CARY can keep hamer near head hammer will hit below man without any problem )



NEWTON NOT MADE HUGE MISTAKE

HE NEVER TOLD THAT INERTIA MASS = GRAVITATION MASS

EINSTEIN NOT TO THE END TOLD TRUE

WE SCHOULD USE INERTIA RISE UP IF VELOCITY RISE UP

NOT
MASS M rise up if velocity rise UP

( WE HAVE STATIONARY POINT ) EACH BODY THAT IS MOVING HAVE APPARENT POINT !!!

MOTION = I WAS IN POINT 1 I'm in point 2 I will be in point 3

Constant motion each distance are the same

I'm sure that point where I was in past not exist and is not moving with my own coordination system ( joust exist )

I was in point one I will be in point 2 ( I'm moving )




INERTIA = ENERGY

ENERGY HAS GOT DIRECTION !!! ( MAROSZ )
( perpendicular to velocity Vo test inside rocket from above picture will give the same air capacity left and right )

Why ENERGY HAS GOT DIRECTION
because exist motion and INERTIA

IN MY TEST

Bulb -30 km/s --> AIR ---> 30km/s sensor ---> 30 km/s

AIR give different resistance to light because have got not the same inertia respect to drection ----> 30 km/s

HOW TO CONFIRM ABOVE (nobody made below test ) pendulum



Where is the problem ??? MATHEMATICA ???

http://youtu.be/1HWsvZdMBek

http://youtu.be/zpgZJmbkAmA




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