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Originally Posted By: newton

I don't need to speak how water slowdown air I know one
light need time


I am afraid you will need to know how Newton

See here is the weird thing the light never travels at any other speed than "c" really but yet it goes slower.

How is this possible?????

This is what the early scientist struggled with if the speed of light is only ever "c" which it is how does a media slow light down.

The answer to that question tells you why you can't do you test under water because light doesn't behave like you need.


Originally Posted By: newton

What about Michelson - Morley ??? My test very easy is able show East West 30 km/s and 220 km/s and others


As I said no scientific test has ever shown light doing anything but "c" ever and all the labs around the world face all sorts of directions.

That is thousands of universities, hundreds of thousands of students in there first and second year labs and not one ha ever seen the speed of light do anything other than "c".


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Originally Posted By: Newton

if A not equal B and Vearth = constant we can calibrate camera
( brightnes of picture inside air and inside water and in vacuum )


I am confused about this statement?

You have sent light into two different media with totally different energy losses and you expect them to have the same brightness ?????

Think about it this way light from the sun comes thru many kilometers of air and it is still bright outside if you go to the ocean and go down just a few hundred meters it is almost totally pitch black.

We then have the second issue you think the photon of light is really travelling in the media and that gets interesting how light travels thru a media smile


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( Idea experiment only )



A - virtual apparent point for Sun ( stationary point we know that sun was in point A in past )

Vacuum
sun -------150 000 000 -------Earth --->20 km/s

Water
sun -------150 000 000 -------Earth --->20 km/s


I'm 100 % sure that Earth and Sun is moving in the Universe
(not exist stationary model ) Please compare time inside water and time inside vacuum

Photocamera and distance ( we have the same bulb )

bulb----5 meters --- photocamera 1

bulb-------------10m--------------photocamera2

Photocamera 1 will register brightness X
Photocamera 2 will register brightness Y = 1/4 X

Why ?




lets back to Solar system

everyone know that not exist C+ 20 km/s !!!

sun -------150 000 000 -------Earth --->20 km/s

below apparent point animation ( it is not my own )

click> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aberrationlighttimebeaming.gif





Unsolved problem for SRT and GRT

What if
if exist only one body in the universe
( or if we are inside dark box and we can not look on stars )




How to solve above problem ( you can in Your home made test
inside air and inside water )



Respect to what camera see different brightnes of picture
west east direction ???

first test
> http://youtu.be/XF_npmQ8kGY

first pictures ( brightness - photoshop 10 histogram) west ( -30km/s ) and East (+30 km/s )
> http://youtu.be/O9k-zidfJZg

I don't know nothing about physics ( I joust made a test it is not theory )


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DEAR ORAC

EVEN IF ( I DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW ) WE HAVE DIFFERENT RECOMBINATION TIME AND ENERGY (WEST AND OPPOSITE EAST DIRECTION )

+ OR - 30 KM/S


QUESTION :


respect to what we can measure different ?

light is GOING isotropy we ARE moving ?

OR we not moving lIGHT IS GOING ANISOTROPY ????

OTHER OPTION ? SPACE IS GETING MORE TIGHT ?

????? temperature ????


RESPECT TO WHAT ............????

motion is only one and natural reason ????!!!!!!!!!!

FOR ME lIGHT IS GOING ISOTROPY RESPECT TO POINT WHERE STARTED
CAMERA IS MOVING SO CAN SEE ANISOTROPY THIS WHAT IS ISOTROPY ???


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The answers Newton are easy but you refuse to look at them because you want to insist answers which are totally wrong and is easily falsified.

You are up to about 10 errors so far.

As you want to insist a clearly wrong answers and not go thru the evidence to show that fact, there seems little point discussing this anymore.

Can you therefore please not direct questions to me as I have lost interest in this and clearly you are unwilling to learn your mistakes.

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Below picture it is experiment with light
and doppler efect for light ( left side )




WE ARE NOT SPEAK ABOUT NEWTON !!


we speak about Michelson Morley ( BRIGHTNESS VERSION )


CAN WE RECOGNIZE WHERE LIGHT STARTED IN PAST
( point 1,2,3,4,... doppler picture)

CAN WE RECOGNIZE ABSOLUTE ZERO MOTION ( please compare situation A and B or C

if light is going isotropy respect to point 1 ( apparent point 1 )if cameras inside rocket and rocket are moving respect to apparent point 1 THERY IS NO OTHER OPTION
FRONT CAMERA or REAR CAMERA will register not the same Energy
in the same TIME ( at the end of picture you can see how look light's beam )

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