Welcome to
Science a GoGo's
Discussion Forums
Please keep your postings on-topic or they will be moved to a galaxy far, far away.
Your use of this forum indicates your agreement to our terms of use.
So that we remain spam-free, please note that all posts by new users are moderated.


The Forums
General Science Talk        Not-Quite-Science        Climate Change Discussion        Physics Forum        Science Fiction

Who's Online
0 registered (), 382 Guests and 0 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Latest Posts
The universes expansion accelleration solved.
by Marchimedes
05/14/20 07:25 AM
Top Posters (30 Days)
Marchimedes 4
Page 3 of 3 < 1 2 3
Topic Options
#44998 - 08/25/12 08:23 PM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: Bill S.]
Bill S. Offline
Megastar

Registered: 08/20/10
Posts: 3570
Loc: Essex, UK
Enough levity! Let's have another go at serious discussion.

I propose starting with the idea that the Earth's core rotates faster than the mantle and crust.

There has been debate about this possibility for around ten years, but it seems to be settled now thanks to modern technology and the analysis of seismic waves over a long period. The verdict is that the inner core rotates faster than the mantle and crust. The latest study has even put a value to this. The inner core rotates at 0.3 to 0.5 degrees per year faster than the mantle and crust. However, it seems that this relative difference must not be taken as a steady rate as it varies over time.

We should now ask the question: “Why this difference?”. There would appear to be at least three candidates for the cause.

1) Mansfield’s idea that when the old moon collided with pre-earth it would have slowed (pre-) Earth’s rotation, and that this slowing would have had more effect on the crust and mantle than on the core.

2) Current geological thinking goes something like this: The heat of Earth's solid inner core churns the molten liquid outer core. The churning generates electric currents and, as a result, creates the planet's magnetic field. Interaction between the electric current and magnetic field is thought to spin the inner core at the same rate that the liquid core just above it is turning, which tends to be slightly faster than the mantle.

3) The moon is not only the major tidal influence on the Earth; it also has a breaking influence on the Earth’s rotation. This influence would be greater on the crust and mantle than it would on the core.

Anyone, any thoughts on a choice of candidate? (With reasons, please.)
_________________________
There never was nothing.

Top
.
#44999 - 08/26/12 03:01 AM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: Bill S.]
Orac Offline
Megastar

Registered: 05/20/11
Posts: 2819
Loc: Currently Illinois, USA
Originally Posted By: Bill S.

Have a care, there, Orac! Just because you don't inhabit geology forums...... Yes, I know that should be "fora", but I'm trying to make a pretence of modernity. smile


Come on Bill S they are rocks ... not much excitement there ... come to the light and study alive stuff :-)


Originally Posted By: Bill S.

BTW: Pre has sort of re-ignited my interest in geology after almost 40 years, give him credit for that.


ZOMG something positive out of an interaction with Preearth I am astounded.

BTW good luck to you .. preeath answer a question hahahaha


Edited by Orac (08/26/12 03:12 AM)
_________________________
I believe in "Evil, Bad, Ungodly fantasy science and maths", so I am undoubtedly wrong to you.

Top
#45019 - 08/27/12 03:02 PM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: Orac]
Bill S. Offline
Megastar

Registered: 08/20/10
Posts: 3570
Loc: Essex, UK
Quote:
come to the light and study alive stuff :-)


Alive? Like your quons??? laugh
_________________________
There never was nothing.

Top
#45043 - 08/28/12 11:47 AM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: Bill S.]
Bill S. Offline
Megastar

Registered: 08/20/10
Posts: 3570
Loc: Essex, UK
There's a thread dealing with " the flatness problem", but there seems also to be a problem of flatness in matters tectonic, in particular, and geological in general.

Surely there's someone out there with some thoughts.
_________________________
There never was nothing.

Top
#45726 - 10/04/12 10:59 AM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: Bill S.]
preearth Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 05/22/10
Posts: 370
Seriously; I'm disappointed that you guys cannot find a friendly geologist to help you out.
_________________________
Earth formed from a collision
www.preearth.net

Plate-tectonics is wrong
www.preearth.net/plate.html

Top
#45729 - 10/04/12 07:16 PM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: preearth]
Bill S. Offline
Megastar

Registered: 08/20/10
Posts: 3570
Loc: Essex, UK
Pre, perhaps, if you answered some questions we might need to find a friendly geologist or two, but acording to your own standard, those who don't answer questions can be assumed to have no answers.
_________________________
There never was nothing.

Top
#46015 - 11/10/12 01:12 PM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: Bill S.]
preearth Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 05/22/10
Posts: 370
Originally Posted By: Bill S.
Pre, perhaps, if you answered some questions we might need to find a friendly geologist or two, but according to your own standard, those who don't answer questions can be assumed to have no answers.

You might find a friendly geologist or two,... simply for the enlightenment of the masses. A worthy cause in it self.
_________________________
Earth formed from a collision
www.preearth.net

Plate-tectonics is wrong
www.preearth.net/plate.html

Top
#46023 - 11/10/12 07:19 PM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: Bill S.]
Bill S. Offline
Megastar

Registered: 08/20/10
Posts: 3570
Loc: Essex, UK
Quote:
You might find a friendly geologist or two,... simply for the enlightenment of the masses. A worthy cause in it self.


You keep on about consulting friendly geologists. Are you saying that only geologists have the answers?

Could this be why you don't answer questions?
_________________________
There never was nothing.

Top
#47336 - 01/05/13 01:26 AM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: Bill S.]
preearth Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 05/22/10
Posts: 370
Originally Posted By: Bill S.
You keep on about consulting friendly geologists. Are you saying that only geologists have the answers?

No, I am saying that you folk know nothing; and you know no people who know anything, so why are you even here?
_________________________
Earth formed from a collision
www.preearth.net

Plate-tectonics is wrong
www.preearth.net/plate.html

Top
#47347 - 01/05/13 08:56 AM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: preearth]
Orac Offline
Megastar

Registered: 05/20/11
Posts: 2819
Loc: Currently Illinois, USA
Scientifically speaking we could already have convinced ourselves that we have falsified your theory and thus no further conversation is neccessary.

We are comfortable that our current theory is correct and yours has been falsified what is there to discuss, that is how science works something a mathematician may not understand smile

If you were actually interested in how science works you could always follow the story of how the standard model just got installed as the gold standard theory of physics and see whats actually involved but thats probably too hard for your type.


Edited by Orac (01/05/13 10:32 AM)
_________________________
I believe in "Evil, Bad, Ungodly fantasy science and maths", so I am undoubtedly wrong to you.

Top
#47351 - 01/05/13 04:42 PM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: Orac]
paul Offline
Megastar

Registered: 03/21/06
Posts: 4136
but by saying scientifically speaking you are not saying much
as no one in the entire galaxy believe's what science says anymore.

so when science speaks , people hear it , but there is no impact anymore because the speaker is lying and the people know it.

so if science convinces itself yet again by patting themselves on the back and agreeing that they know everything , the people just
roll their eyes and wonder what crap are they trying to feed us now.

orac suggest that you read about science installing the standard model as the gold model , but what has that got to do with a bunch of people standing around patting each other on the back saying we are better than everyone else because we have convinced ourselves of that fact because we are really good liar's.

and if they have falsified your theory what does that really mean?

and do you care?

what impact will it eventually have on society?

no thing that scientist claim's can actually be trusted.

because their religion is based on lies.









_________________________
3/4 inch of dust build up on the moon in 4.527 billion years,LOL and QM is fantasy science.

Top
#47353 - 01/05/13 04:52 PM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: preearth]
Bill S. Offline
Megastar

Registered: 08/20/10
Posts: 3570
Loc: Essex, UK
Quote:
No, I am saying that you folk know nothing; and you know no people who know anything, so why are you even here?


So that's what it is! Pre wants to be the only one on SAGG.
I guess that's one way of ensuring that no one questions your opinions.
_________________________
There never was nothing.

Top
#47354 - 01/05/13 04:59 PM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: preearth]
paul Offline
Megastar

Registered: 03/21/06
Posts: 4136
Quote:
No, I am saying that you folk know nothing; and you know no people who know anything, so why are you even here?


I believe that they are here to try somehow to reassure themselves
to each other that their religion or cult is properly announced to
the public.

its like the bush administration tried to follow in the footsteps
of hittler , with the fear tactics that they utilized.

only , I believe that science is in the process of limit testing.

they want to find out just how much they can get away with.

just how gullible people are , and how strong people can feel
about the lies that science portrays as the truth.

thankfully , I can see through the lies using logic.

but even logic leaves when a so called modern scientist enters
the room , logic just throws up its arms and says Im outta here
this mutation has arrived in my presence and it makes me sick.

therefore a scientist does not have logic as a tool to use to
render a conclusion.

which is why we see the idiotic replies that we see on a science
forum.













_________________________
3/4 inch of dust build up on the moon in 4.527 billion years,LOL and QM is fantasy science.

Top
#47363 - 01/06/13 02:30 AM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: paul]
Orac Offline
Megastar

Registered: 05/20/11
Posts: 2819
Loc: Currently Illinois, USA
I feel you pain my friend and I think science and I are strong enough to stand your rantings caused by the pain .... Peace be with you.

ROMANS: 15.1
We who are strong have an obligation to bear with the failings of the weak, and not to please ourselves.


Edited by Orac (01/06/13 02:40 AM)
_________________________
I believe in "Evil, Bad, Ungodly fantasy science and maths", so I am undoubtedly wrong to you.

Top
#47384 - 01/06/13 10:35 PM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: Orac]
paul Offline
Megastar

Registered: 03/21/06
Posts: 4136
Quote:
We who are strong have an obligation to bear with the failings of the weak, and not to please ourselves.


LOL

we who are strong !!!

patting each other on the back ( pleasing yourselves )and fantasizing that you
are strong because science and you agree on the fantasy
that science has allied itself with does not a strong group of people make.

if you and science are strong then why cant you and science lift yourselves up out of the mire you are stuck in.



Edited by paul (01/06/13 10:37 PM)
_________________________
3/4 inch of dust build up on the moon in 4.527 billion years,LOL and QM is fantasy science.

Top
#47740 - 01/21/13 10:58 PM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: Bill S.]
Bill S. Offline
Megastar

Registered: 08/20/10
Posts: 3570
Loc: Essex, UK
Just found a couple of interesting links. As someone who has always admired Warren Carey for his work and his single minded devotion to his ideas, I found the tribute, from one geology enthusiast to another, struck a cord.

http://geology.about.com/od/platetectonics/a/Expanding-Earth-Animation.htm?nl=1

http://geology.about.com/od/biographies_ac/a/warrencarey.htm
_________________________
There never was nothing.

Top
#47823 - 01/28/13 09:16 PM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: Bill S.]
Bill S. Offline
Megastar

Registered: 08/20/10
Posts: 3570
Loc: Essex, UK
I couldn't get this link to work, other than by copy/paste, but I thought it was worth the effort.

http://carnegiescience.edu/news/studying_ancient_earth%E2%80%99s_geochemistry

I bet someone can tell me what I should have done. smile
_________________________
There never was nothing.

Top
#48247 - 03/04/13 03:01 AM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: Bill S.]
preearth Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 05/22/10
Posts: 370
Originally Posted By: Bill S.
Just found a couple of interesting links. As someone who has always admired Warren Carey for his work and his single minded devotion to his ideas, I found the tribute, from one geology enthusiast to another, struck a cord.

http://geology.about.com/od/platetectonics/a/Expanding-Earth-Animation.htm?nl=1

http://geology.about.com/od/biographies_ac/a/warrencarey.htm

Here's another from about.com

http://geology.about.com/b/2013/01/19/the-expanding-earth-illusion.htm
_________________________
Earth formed from a collision
www.preearth.net

Plate-tectonics is wrong
www.preearth.net/plate.html

Top
#48447 - 04/08/13 10:29 AM Re: Global Tectonics [Re: Bill S.]
preearth Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 05/22/10
Posts: 370
Yeah, Andrew Alden is a bit of a dick.
_________________________
Earth formed from a collision
www.preearth.net

Plate-tectonics is wrong
www.preearth.net/plate.html

Top
Page 3 of 3 < 1 2 3



Newest Members
debbieevans, bkhj, jackk, Johnmattison, RacerGT
865 Registered Users
Sponsor
Facebook

We're on Facebook
Join Our Group

Science a GoGo's Home Page | Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Contact Us
Features | News | Books | Physics | Space | Climate Change | Health | Technology | Natural World

Copyright © 1998 - 2016 Science a GoGo and its licensors. All rights reserved.