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#48072 - 02/22/13 05:49 PM Dying to have known
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Documentary filmmaker Stephen Kroschel asks whether the long-suppressed form of cancer treatment known as Gerson Therapy could truly be as effective as some cancer survivors claim in this film that offers a wide array of testimonies from medical specialists, health experts, and patients. More than seventy five years after being proven to cure degenerative disease, Gerson Therapy is still virtually unknown to the masses - but why? In order to seek out an answer to this question, Kroschel travels across both the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, across the United States, and through Japan, Holland, and Mexico to speak with a wide variety of scientists, nutritionists, surgeons, and patients who have witnessed the powerful effects of Gerson Therapy firsthand.

About this movie
Genres:Documentary
Language:English
Running time:1:19:01
Partner rating: PG-13
Released:2006
Quality:480 (DVD equivalent)

Cast & Crew
Directors
Steve Kroschel
Producers
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note:you must have an internet connection to view this movie.
if you don't have an internet connection at home then just
wait till the boss leaves then watch it at work.





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#48073 - 02/22/13 06:01 PM Re: Dying to have known [Re: paul]
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Little bit better with a brief description, thanks!

But alas, still doomed. Video not available outside the US.

Censorship is the cancer of the internet. Yeah, I went there.
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#48080 - 02/22/13 11:35 PM Re: Dying to have known [Re: Neohippy]
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Video not available outside the US.

Censorship is the cancer of the internet.


strange.

you guys in Canada must have already experienced gun control then?

they have you by the ball's now , not much you
can do about it.

I live in a country that practices freedom so I can watch
videos from everywhere in the world.

I will see if I can find one that you can watch in the
freedom oppressed nation of Canada!

try this one




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#48094 - 02/24/13 09:03 PM Re: Dying to have known [Re: paul]
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Originally Posted By: paul
[quote]Video not available outside the US.

Censorship is the cancer of the internet.

I live in a country that practices freedom so I can watch
videos from everywhere in the world.

I will see if I can find one that you can watch in the
freedom oppressed nation of Canada!




Originally Posted By: Mike Kremer


Mike Kremer said:- Sorry Paul, having lived in Canada for a number of years...Canada is certainly NOT a freedom oppressed Nation.
In fact it has a lot more freedom than its smaller neighbour the USA.
The USA still bans the Communist Party, while George
Orwells book, 'Animal Farm', may still be banned?
The reason your Video 'Dying to have knowm...' was banned is because..
YOUTUBE is well aware that it is illegal in Europe to advertise any cure for any disease.
In fact NO DOCTOR can advertise his practice, nor can any HOSPITAL advertise itself here in Europe!!
Its totally banned and illegal, which is why your 80 year old Video cure for Cancer put out by a German doctor, was pulled by YouTube.
Eating a special food diet and having a regular Ennema of Fruit Juice and Coffee pushed up your large intestine, may not use drugs.. BUT It does state it could cure Cancer .
Stating that ANY disease is curable in Europe... is illegal.






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#48096 - 02/25/13 05:09 AM Re: Dying to have known [Re: Mike Kremer]
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While it is not illegal in USA to make outrageous ridiculous and dangerous claims thanks to our freedom of speech laws should you be tempted to try and charge a fee even based on success for such claims you will very quickly find yourself in jail.

You may want to look at the entry in wikipedia on the Burzynski Clinic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzynski_Clinic)

For you Paul you can buy the DVD I recommend the 2 DVD set (https://www.burzynskimovie.com/index.php...5&Itemid=96)

Mind you I do find it amusing that Paul would think some strange diet and putting warm coffee up your butt might cure cancer ... its the butt thing that convinced you isn't it Paul laugh


Edited by Orac (02/25/13 05:17 AM)
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#48097 - 02/25/13 06:58 AM Re: Dying to have known [Re: Mike Kremer]
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it is illegal in Europe to advertise any cure for any disease.


you poor poor oppressed people, I feel sorry for you that
the internet is the only place where you can see or hear these types of extremely important cures and remedies.

living in nations that act this way towards their own citizens
must be similar to living in germany in the 1930's - 1940's
even in the U.S. we are beginning to experience the nazi type
control over us.

we have illegal check points that are called sobriety and ID check points where the gestapo even go as far as to break your
window in if you refuse to roll it down and innocent school teachers are arrested after they try to live their life by the
laws of the U.S. Constitution.

let me give you a few examples.



illegal search in the above video according to our U.S. Constitution.



sometimes it almost seems that our government wants us to
understand things, so they do things that make us think.

its like they cant do anything about it but they give us
ample warning about it.



fema camps n such warnings.











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#48098 - 02/25/13 08:42 AM Re: Dying to have known [Re: paul]
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You poor soul perhaps you should try living in a country that really does practice oppression before you comment, I personally have lived in two.

The only thing oppressed in USA is the intelligence of some of the rednecks who think that stopping for a sobriety test so drunk rednecks don't kill innocent people is oppression smile

As a humorous life observation from those 2 situations I lived in there is a plus side of oppressive governments in that the rednecks are the first against the wall because they are deemed useless for any task smile
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#48104 - 02/25/13 04:23 PM Re: Dying to have known [Re: Orac]
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perhaps you should try living in a country that really does practice oppression before you comment, I personally have lived in two.


then simply go back to either of the countries that you experienced oppression in since you seem to think that freedoms aren't anything special and should not be something that a
citizen should protect.

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rednecks are the first against the wall because they are deemed useless for any task


I'm not sure what your definition of a red neck is orac , but
lets think about this , a red neck in my world is someone who
does not need someone like yourself to survive.

nothing that you will ever do will help him to survive.

in fact someone like yourself would be a hardship to a red neck in a survival situation.

on the other hand someone like yourself is totally dependent on
red neck's for their survival.

really , what worth would you be , what could you do in a
survival situation to survive?

would you go out to the red necks farms and steal food?
would you try to trade them some of your QM BS for food?
would you go steal the contents of a red necks semi truck?
of course that would be after all the non red necks supplies
in the cities have been stolen and consumed already.

it would be like the walking dead roaming around looking for something but only finding lead based products.

hopefully it will never come to that but until we begin to
manufacture products in the U.S. our economy will continue to
shrink every year.

and more and more prisons will be constructed for the non red necks who are packed into the cities that cant find any income
so they must resort to crime as an income source and then
they become an income source for the gestapo and the prison industry.

what tickles me is your use of those two oppressive countries that you have lived in that you claim are worse as far as freedoms are concerned , yet you use them as a discussion point in a forum to argue that what freedoms we are loosing really isn't much to worry about , that tells me that your just not very bright.
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#48109 - 02/25/13 07:07 PM Re: Dying to have known [Re: Orac]
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The only thing oppressed in USA is the intelligence of some of the rednecks who think that stopping for a sobriety test so drunk rednecks don't kill innocent people is oppression


I could understand actual sobriety check point's set up at the
parking lots of night clubs and even in the parking lots of fast food stores , etc...

but to stop every single person driving down a highway to check
all of them is overkill.

they don't need to cause anyone to exit their vehicle to check
if they are a legal citizen or who they are , all they need to do is to run the cars license plate number.

or get them to hold their drivers license up against the cars window , each card has a readable strip on it.

you have to get an ID card these days anyway when you get your
drivers license so they could simply and effectively check who
you are and see your picture on their patrol cars laptops if
these ID pictures were or are available when they run the cars license plate numbers.

then when they look at the driver through a closed window glass
they will be able to identify if the driver matches the photo
that is registered to the drivers license.

from the videos I've watched their main concern seems to be
to find out who the person is and all under the guise of sobriety checks.

But no, they want to instill in the population a degree of fear
or should I use the word tyranny instead.

It's all a part of the united nations agenda 21 which is to
mass people into the cities so that people can be exterminated
easier.

If I ever get the opportunity to vote to kick the united nation's out of the U.S. I will gladly vote them out.

I don't think that the U.S. needs to be dictated to by the
united nations.

Also , I truly believe that it would benefit the U.S. if we would remove ourselves as members of the united nations.
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#48115 - 02/26/13 01:13 AM Re: Dying to have known [Re: paul]
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So you have no problem with the goal of keeping intoxicated people off the road it's how they are doing it .. right

So lets do the next redneck test then .. you accept the objective but not the method.

So lets legislate to have breathtest interlocks on every new car and must be retro fitted in all cars on road in say 10 year. The devices cost around $150 and you must simply blow into the device before it will allow you start a car. There will of coarse be massive fines and jail for defeating or tampering with such devices.

Objective of keeping intoxicated people off the road and you don't have to stop for any road block.

No problems with the above?

Mates at ANU tell me just that approach is actually being undertaken in one state in Australia. Currently they are starting with anyone convicted of drink driving but they want to extend it to all cars.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-25/in...drivers/4537250


Edited by Orac (02/26/13 01:17 AM)
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#48119 - 02/26/13 02:08 AM Re: Dying to have known [Re: paul]
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Originally Posted By: paul
but to stop every single person driving down a highway to check all of them is overkill.

Except, statistics show, it works and is effective. Given the data, rationality informs us it is not 'overkill' - it is the single most effective tactic invented to date.

Originally Posted By: paul

It's all a part of the united nations agenda 21 which is to
mass people into the cities so that people can be exterminated
easier.

Paranoid much? And you may want to read agenda 21 on your own - whomever fed you this info was blowing hot air up your skirt. Agenda 21 actually proposes the very opposite of what you claim it does - it calls for manageable-sized cities and improvement to rural infrastructure. It asks governments to actively avoid excessive urbanization and the formation of overly-large urban areas.

Its also a non-binding agreement, so one has to wonder what you're so worked up about. But I can see where your opposition comes from - it is full of horrible ideas. Ensuring the poor have access to food & shelter - how atrocious! Prevent people from living in pools of their own sewage - how dare they! Mandating pollution controls - oh, the horror! Building local economies - no capitalism please! Not cutting down all the forests - O2; who needs it!

Yep, it that agenda 21 sure is a bad thing. Causing caring for people, building economies, all while not destroying the biosphere is the mark of the devil!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted By: paul
I don't think that the U.S. needs to be dictated to by the united nations.

And since the UN lacks that capability, one wonders what you are complaining about. The US must ratify all agreements procured by the UN - the UN cannot unilaterally dictate policy & law to the US.

Originally Posted By: paul
Also , I truly believe that it would benefit the U.S. if we would remove ourselves as members of the united nations.

Given your apparent lack of knowledge of how the UN works, and how UN treaties and agreement make it into US law, I'd say your not in a position to make an informed decision in regards to the UN's relationship with the US...

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#48124 - 02/26/13 03:23 AM Re: Dying to have known [Re: Orac]
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So lets legislate to have breath test interlocks on every new car and must be retro fitted in all cars on road in say 10 year. The devices cost around $150 and you must simply blow into the device before it will allow you start a car. There will of coarse be massive fines and jail for defeating or tampering with such devices.


it would work a percentage of the time.
but in the night club parking lots there would be people selling bags of clean air.

or you could just buy a can of compressed air yourself.

I'm not sure that they could make a drunk driver safe vehicle.

maybe a mental test with reaction times or something.
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#48126 - 02/26/13 04:50 AM Re: Dying to have known [Re: ImagingGeek]
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un social workers , breaking in to homes and stealing / taking millions of children from their parents , millions.

got kids?

you need to grow up and smell the s#!t , the un is wonderful as a income source for the un workers , no doubt.



didn't the nazi's take the children away from their parents
some as young as 2 years old ?

1 million die in Ryanda as un troops do nothing to protect
the citizens , they die as they plead for the troops to stop
the killing.

wonderful un.



500,000 children died because of un sanctions in Iraq



india



https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=united+nations+genocide&page=2

agenda 21 results in the U.S.

do you ever want to own land?



here is the agenda 21 document , in pdf.

comprehend with extreme caution.

http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf













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#48127 - 02/26/13 06:49 AM Re: Dying to have known [Re: paul]
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Add Australia to the list of countries where it is illegal to make the unprovable claim that you can cure cancer. No video here!

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#48130 - 02/26/13 03:10 PM Re: Dying to have known [Re: paul]
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Originally Posted By: paul
geek

un social workers , breaking in to homes and stealing / taking millions of children from their parents , millions.

And since that all existed prior to the existence of the UN - at least in your country - one has to wonder how the UN is to blame.

Originally Posted By: paul
you need to grow up and smell the s#!t , the un is wonderful as a income source for the un workers , no doubt.

Given that you've demonstrated a lack of working knowledge of the UN, how UN agreements enter law, etc, I think we can safely ignore your claims. Random youtube videos of others who have a similar ignorance of the UN and its operations is hardly a defence.

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#48132 - 02/26/13 04:14 PM Re: Dying to have known [Re: ImagingGeek]
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And since that all existed prior to the existence of the UN - at least in your country - one has to wonder how the UN is to blame.


uh , because the un workers work for the un?

I'm going to say that because the un workers were following
un orders or instruction during the theft of the children
that that is the reason that the un is to blame and I'm also
going to add that the un has been in existence long before these incidences took place , lets try around 1941.

LOL

headquarters built in the U.S. in 1952
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Headquarters

after we kick the un out I think the building would make a nice
city auditorium where the free people can gather and practice
their freedoms.

Quote:
Given that you've demonstrated a lack of working knowledge of the UN


you just run your mouth , don't you?
lip service.










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#48134 - 02/26/13 04:32 PM Re: Dying to have known [Re: Ellis]
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Add Australia to the list of countries where it is illegal to make the unprovable claim that you can cure cancer. No video here!


and the general knowledge is that you must endure the available
methods of cancer treatments , and those are well known.

alternate options are not allowed to advertise.

do you feel as if secrets are being kept?

would you say that Australia's , Canada's , Europe's , etc inability to view the video makes a strong point that you should be concerned about?

do you feel protected or oppressed by your inability to
view video's of this nature.

I would feel a bit like a cow in a cow pen waiting for the slaughter.
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#48138 - 02/26/13 05:52 PM Re: Dying to have known [Re: paul]
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Originally Posted By: paul
uh , because the un workers work for the un?

Way to avoid the question. You stated the US should get out of the UN because the UN is forcing the US to apply UN policy. I pointed out this was false - that is not how the UN works. You, in turn, posted something completely irrelevant.

Originally Posted By: paul
I'm going to say that because the un workers were following un orders or instruction during the theft of the childrenthat that is the reason that the un is to blame

There is one small problem with your argument - that being that it is a fantasy - this is not occurring. And, again, if you knew anything of how the UN works you'd realize that.

All of these claims arise from the convention on the rights of the child - but like all UN conventions, it is upto individual countries to ratify & enforce it. No UN staff are involved in enforcement.

The *claims* of child abduction by the anti-UN individuals are based on a completely different thing. The UN is tasked in some areas of Africa with the recovery and rehabilitation of children who have been kidnapped (usually for use as child solders or sex slaves). Various morally-corrupt individuals have tried to associate rescuing children from slavery in one region of the world with the effects of voluntary compliance to the convention on the rights of children.

You have to be a pretty sick individual to relate the two.

Originally Posted By: paul
and I'm also going to add that the un has been in existence long before these incidences took place , lets try around 1941.

What 'incidents'? There are none - other than those mis-represented by various ant-UN types. I was referring to your statements in regards to state seizures of maltreated children, which has been occurring in the US since colonial times. Hell, things are better now than before. In the 1800's, simply being suspected of working in prostitution was grounds for the US gov to seize your children.


Originally Posted By: paul
Again, you're showing your ignorance of how the un operates:
1) they cannot operate anywhere without the consent of local authorities,
2) they generally work with, rather than in place of

LOL

headquarters built in the U.S. in 1952
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Headquarters

I fail to see how linking to the UN headquarters wiki page in any way shape or form counters what I wrote. Reality is they need permission of local authorities to work in an area, and they generally work with (most often guide) those local authorities. Pointing out their headquarters was voluntarily build kin the US hardly counters that.


Originally Posted By: paul
you just run your mouth , don't you?
lip service.

If by 'running my mouth' you mean providing facts in place of your fictions, than yes, I 'run my mouth'. Luckily for me, it is attached to my brain. You seem to have divorced the two...

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#48147 - 02/26/13 10:23 PM Re: Dying to have known [Re: ImagingGeek]
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yes, I 'run my mouth'. Luckily for me, it is attached to my brain.


that must be where this came from then.

Quote:
Way to avoid the question.


which question were you referring to?

this question?

Quote:
And since that all existed prior to the existence of the UN - at least in your country - one has to wonder how the UN is to blame.


or this question?

Quote:

Given that you've demonstrated a lack of working knowledge of the UN, how UN agreements enter law, etc, I think we can safely ignore your claims. Random youtube videos of others who have a similar ignorance of the UN and its operations is hardly a defence.


although neither are actually questions as far as I'm concerned.

Quote:
You stated the US should get out of the UN because the UN is forcing the US to apply UN policy.


yes we need to get out of the un.
were not going to just give up our property or the right
to do as we wish with our property even if our politicians
want to suck up to the un policy.

that's why we need to get out of the un.

if the un wants to force us
( the PEOPLE ) to follow their policy.

all I can suggest to them is bring it on.

also: you need to learn how to operate the forum controls.

you posted the below underlined crap as if I said it.


Quote:

Originally Posted By: paul
Again, you're showing your ignorance of how the un operates:
1) they cannot operate anywhere without the consent of local authorities,
2) they generally work with, rather than in place of


LOL

headquarters built in the U.S. in 1952
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Headquarters
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#48149 - 02/26/13 10:49 PM Re: Dying to have known [Re: paul]
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Originally Posted By: paul
[quote]

would you say that Australia's , Canada's , Europe's , etc inability to view the video makes a strong point that you should be concerned about?







"The uploader has not made this video available in your country"

The censorship is within your own borders. Hot damn paul, you're really playing the stereotype the rest of the world applies to residents of the united states.

The USA is responsible for SOPA too. There is attempted closure of international websites, everyday, by overzealous USA based companies/legal firms.

I would love to see the USA out of many multinational organizations, but that wouldn't be fair to the hundreds of millions of intelligent, hard working individuals in your country that we never hear from. These people are smart enough to become vocal, only when they have an actual point to make, instead of wild uneducated speculation... Like your media industry down there.

When trying to represent a 'free' country, do try to keep an open mind. USA used to walk quietly and carry a big stick... now they seem to put the biggest mouths, with the smallest brains, right on the front line of international relations, and citizen representation.


Edit: I'm not saying government there is worse than anywhere else... just louder, and perhaps shorter sighted.


Edited by Neohippy (02/26/13 10:51 PM)
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