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#46629 - 12/09/12 10:46 PM Re: Why do some people resist science? [Re: Revlgking]
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Originally Posted By: Revlgking
[quote=Orac]... I suspect farsi will translate no evil as something like allah or god it's relatively obvious why. The older languages translate as no personal disaster.

Initially I was trying to negate fitnah but ethat really not what it means I worked out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitna_(word)
Orac, ignore my last response to what you said. Here is a revised version of it:
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I suspect that for Muslims who are truly moral and good--that is, Muslims who feel connected with, or tuned in to Allah (the highest power,) there is no need for them to fear evil.

The same is true for Christians and Jews, who feel connected to God (the highest good, or love). As Psalm 23 puts it: "Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for thou art with me ..."

To this we can add the Greek idea of god, as expressed in the Greek, Theos--the highest kind of scientific knowledge, truth and wisdom).

I like to think of all three--power (energy, action), knowledge (wisdom, truth,. science) and non-romantic love--working as one.

To this is I apply the symbol, GD--and I do not mean an entity with dimensions.


What about sceptics?

What about atheists and agnostics who are basically good-living people--ones who live moral, ethical and loving lives of service to humanity without reference to a deity? Buddhism is a philosophy of religion with a similar non-theistic approach. One can be a Buddhist without naming gods, or a god.

Check out the parables of Jesus, especially Luke chapter 10--the Parable of the Good Samaritan. Nowhere, in the telling of this parable, did Jesus--who, BTW, was not a Christian, but actually a Jew out to reform his own faith--insist that the Samaritan had to become a practising and believing Jew.

IMO, Jesus consistently advocated orthopraxy (the doing of good things)--actually keeping the Golden Rule--not just orthodoxy (the holding of correct beliefs and the doing of correct rituals). [Is this clear? More on this.]
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#46631 - 12/10/12 01:45 AM Re: Why do some people resist science? [Re: Revlgking]
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Originally Posted By: Revlgking
I suspect that for Muslims who are truly moral and good--that is, Muslims who feel connected with, or tuned in to Allah (the highest power,) there is no need for them to fear evil.
Just declare evil to be a personal struggle and an affront to god, then name the evil, then declare a holy war. No Fear!

The idea of being connected to, or "TUNED" to a higher power, is always subjective.
Originally Posted By: Rev.

The same is true for Christians and Jews, who feel connected to God (the highest good, or love). As Psalm 23 puts it: "Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for thou art with me ..."
For The Christians, it was the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition. "Take no prisoners!"
Originally Posted By: Rev.

To this we can add the Greek idea of god, as expressed in the Greek, Theos--the highest kind of scientific knowledge, truth and wisdom).
Or an interpretation of a word as one might apply it to someone ideally fitted to make a point in ones favor....
Originally Posted By: Rev.

I like to think of all three--power (energy, action), knowledge (wisdom, truth,. science) and non-romantic love--working as one.
I'm sure all those who have personally dedicated their actions to God, have made the same conclusion no matter what act was committed in God's name and glory.
Originally Posted By: Revved~

To this is I apply the symbol, GD--and I do not mean an entity with dimensions.
No the dimensions are attached to the personal definitions
of what this non dimensional entity-less GD represents

Originally Posted By: Revved
What about sceptics?
What about them. They are all around us.. Damn them!!!!!
Originally Posted By: Revved

What about atheists and agnostics who are basically good-living people--ones who live moral, ethical and loving lives of service to humanity without reference to a deity?
Well.... they don't look to seek attention for themselves, if they are in service to humanity, and they might not create acronyms for the word God, or slap a tilde on a letter or word just to give it a personal or special meaning. Probably because all that symbolism is just personal fluff.

Originally Posted By: Revved
Buddhism is a philosophy of religion with a similar non-theistic approach. One can be a Buddhist without naming gods, or a god.
Philosophy of Religion....
Oh Boy!.. That's rich.

Originally Posted By: Revved
Jesus--who, BTW, was not a Christian, but actually a Jew out to reform his own faith
Jesus was not a Jew
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm

Reform his FAITH?! That's an interesting idea. Faith being personal, a man sets out to reform his beliefs (in this case) in his own unity with God!


Originally Posted By: Rev. Of The Church of The Holy Opinion


IMO, Jesus consistently advocated orthopraxy (the doing of good)--actually keeping the Golden Rule--not just orthodoxy (the holding of correct beliefs and the doing of correct rituals).
Good, being something beyond the subjective in Belief OR Humble Opinion?
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