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Does Socratus write an unintelligent garbage?

Another inane post by Israel Sadovnik/Socratus.

You have been banned from how many forums for posting
this unintelligent garbage? Yes you are a legend on the net
you even surpass our mate Preearth as I am pretty sure
you hold the record for the most forum bans.

At 68 you think you would have learnt how to communicate
or has the devil and your madness got to you?

Most on the forum here are happy to discuss almost
anything but the key is discuss.

So I will ask you one more time if you have something
to discuss tell us in CLEAR language.

I do not want to see another pile of drivel and quotes
masquerading as something meaningful.
Orac

http://www.scienceagogo.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=44488#Post44488
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Originally Posted By: socratus
Does Socratus write an unintelligent garbage?
What? You're gonna pull the "let's take sides and try to collect opinions against those you don't like" ploy, to bolster your own opinions? I thought only the Reverend did that. frown
Face it. Everyone gets a turn to spew their stuff and it all has its place. The only problem is when someone gets attached to seeing the world the way they want to see it to the exclusion of all contrasting thoughts and ideas. At that point you will find that you allow what others do or say, to have an unstabilizing affect on your thinking processes due to the emotional attachment to the way your world looks.

Careful not to approach the narcissistic borders of the hey look at me and what I have done and can do plea for attention that the Rev. uses, to try and get noticed.


I was addicted to the Hokey Pokey, but then I turned myself around!!




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We have had a mini break through he actually started to answer stuff rather than post quoted meaningless garbage so lets give him a chance.

I do have some sympathy for him because I know what his former masters are capable of and religion was not very well tolerated in his homeland. Russian othodox is the only one really tolerated nowdays and has even been made somewhat popular by Mr Putin.

Can I ask are you a refugee from our former masters like myself Israel and did you get a political correction coarse?
Not trying to intrude if you don't wish to discuss feel free to ignore.

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Time , Particles and Consciousness.
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We have biological consciousness and
we have consciousness on the quantum level

What is connection between biological consciousness
and the consciousness on the quantum level ?

What is role of time in this connection between biological
consciousness and the consciousness on the quantum level ?

What is happened with time in this connection ?
What can happen with time in this connection ?
1
Can we speak about biological and quantum consciousness
without particles (cells and em waves) ?
The answer is 'no'.
2
Can we talk about time without particles?
a)
According to Newton the answer is
'yes, we can talk about time without particles'
b)
According to Einstein the answer is
'no, without particles we cannot talk about time'

Paradox or puzzle ?
3
Does biological consciousness exist only in time?
Does consciousness on the quantum level exist only in time?
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Think you answered the post title with that ... martian translation available anyone?


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OK, that’s not the answer to your questions, Orac, but it might be worth trying to understand what Socratus is suggesting, or asking, here. Could be that one man’s rubbish is another man’s wisdom. (That’s almost worthy of TT. smile

Originally Posted By: Socratus
We have biological consciousness and we have consciousness on the quantum level


What do you mean when you talk of “consciousness on the quantum level”?
Can you give an example of non-biological consciousness?

Originally Posted By: Socratus
What is connection between biological consciousness and the consciousness on the quantum level ?


It's sufficiently difficult to define consciousness, but we would need a definition of “consciousness on the quantum level” in order to answer your question.
Can you provide such a definition?

It would probably be wise to have answers to these questions before trying to progress further.


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Originally Posted By: Bill S.
OK, that’s not the answer to your questions, Orac, but it might be worth trying to understand what Socratus is suggesting, or asking, here. Could be that one man’s rubbish is another man’s wisdom. (That’s almost worthy of TT. smile

Originally Posted By: Socratus
We have biological consciousness and we have consciousness on the quantum level


What do you mean when you talk of “consciousness on the quantum level”?
Can you give an example of non-biological consciousness?

Originally Posted By: Socratus
What is connection between biological consciousness and the consciousness on the quantum level ?


It's sufficiently difficult to define consciousness, but we would need a definition of “consciousness on the quantum level” in order to answer your question.
Can you provide such a definition?

It would probably be wise to have answers to these questions before trying to progress further.

'a consciousness on the quantum level" is ' an unconsciousness'

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Originally Posted By: socratus
'a consciousness on the quantum level" is ' an unconsciousness'
???

That doesn't even make sense, unless you are taking up Zen. And of course then it isn't really supposed to make sense.

Bill Gill


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C is the universal speed limit.
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'a consciousness on the quantum level" is ' an unconsciousness'


Serious question, Socratus; am I wasting my time trying to make sense of your posts?


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Where is the root of all elements ?
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An interesting stuff
(phys.org, Oct 2012)
Lithium in action: Advanced imaging method reveals fundamental reactions behind battery technology
The nano-engineering technology is grown every day,
every day a new success - new discovery.
And it seems that really all elements are magical and amazing.
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But . . . . .
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Let us say that we want to write a full theory about elements.
Then we cannot begin from the lithium.
Lithium is too complex element.
The Periodic table says we need to begin from hydrogen.
But in my opinion we need to begin from helium II.
Why?
Helium II exists below at 2.19 K
We don’t know any another element that exist below this coefficient
Below is Nothingness : T=0K
The idea of the Nothingness is not a new one.
There are enough physicists who try to understand it.
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When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum,
that endless infinite void.
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/aug/18-nothingness-of-space-theory-of-everything
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And Paul Dirac wrote:
" The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? "
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Professor Yang Shao-Horn says:
"We focused on finding out what really happens during
charging and discharging,"

In my opinion there isn’t charging and discharging without photon
( electric charge)
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So, we come again to QED: what is happen in interaction
between photon / electron ( quantum of light) and matter.
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All the best.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus

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Originally Posted By: socratus
In my opinion there isn’t charging and discharging without photon
( electric charge)

Once again socratus you make an elementary mistake. The photon is the particle which transmits the electromagnetic force. The electron is the particle which holds the negative electric charge. The photon and the electron are 2 completely different things.

This is the kind of mistake you make repeatedly. You really need to study what you are talking about before you start writing these unintelligible ramblings. It is this type of thing that causes people to take your writings as so much garbage. If you seemed to know what you were writing about people might be able to see if there is actually anything worthwhile in your posts.

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What is energy of photon ?
The energy of photon is: E=h*f.
What is the energy of electron ?
The energy of an electron is: E=h*f.
What is difference between photon and electron ?
Frequency makes difference between them.
Book " Isaac Newton "
by Soviet academician S. I. Vavilov:
‘ For photons with extremely high fluctuations,
. . . ., in experience was observed the remarkable
phenomenon of transformation them in electrons.
And undoubtedly, a reverse process is also possible.’
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Still wrong Socratus try understanding what you are reading :-)

Try =>
http://ecee.colorado.edu/~bart/book/ex009.htm


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