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Ethan Siegel, in his "Starts With a Bang" blog has an article about the size of the universe.
Originally Posted By: Ethan Siegel
If the Universe does curve back and close on itself, its radius of curvature is at least 150 times as large as the part that’s observable to us! Meaning that — even without speculative physics like cosmic inflation — we know that the entire Universe extends for at least 14 trillion light years in diameter, including the part that’s unobservable to us today.


That is pretty big. It isn't necessarily infinite, but it is a lot bigger than most historical figures have had.

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Looks like a good article, Bill. I've bookmarked it for when I have time to give it some attention.

You know I have to say this, though smile

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Infinity is not something very big!


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Originally Posted By: Bill S.

You know I have to say this, though smile
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That is pretty big. It isn't necessarily infinite
Infinity is not something very big!
What on earth does this last sentence me? Bill S, two things: First, you have some 'splainin to do. Second, I am still waiting for your response to the comment I made about space/time:
Perhaps what we call "time" is simply a beautiful illusion, which gives anyone with the WILL to get involved--certainly this includes me--the opportunity to wonder (philosophise), measure (do the math and the other sciences) and create--that is, do the technology and the art. And doesn't all the sciences
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“Infinity is not something very big!”. Infinity is not a very large, or a very small number. In fact it is not a number at all. Infinity is not a very big, or a very small something. In fact it cannot be defined as having any size within the 3+1 dimensions to which we are restricted.

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I am still waiting for your response to the comment I made about space/time:


Did I miss something, or is it my memory? I always try to answer questions, so please ask again.


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Originally Posted By: Bill S.
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I am still waiting for your response to the comment I made about space/time:


Did I miss something, or is it my memory? I always try to answer questions, so please ask again.
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Originally Posted By: Revlgking
Originally Posted By: Bill S.
Rev, I would be fascinated to know how you distinguish between infinity and eternity. Your personal distinction, that is; not how one might distinguish....
Bill, I am not sure what it is you are asking. Could you put it another way? Meanwhile, ...

THE FOLLOWING JUST CAME TO ME THIS A.M.
While I did my usual morning META-tation--it can be done in less than five minutes--the following came to me:

Maybe, in my pneuma--i.e., my spirit, the who I am now, the self, the soul, the mind and source of my good and not-so-good (evil?) self--there IS no distinction between space/time.

There IS only space (G~O~D~like, panENtheistic Spirit) vibrating/moving and expanding in all directions.

Perhaps what we call "time" is simply a beautiful illusion, which gives anyone with the WILL to get involved--certainly this includes me--the opportunity to wonder (philosophise), measure (do the math and the other sciences) and create ( do the technology and the art). And doesn't all
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Rephrasing what I said earlier: If space allowed for it, in my signature I would write the GOD symbol--the one I concocted, a year or so ago--in two ways: When speaking of space--using a capital O--I would write it as G~O~D~~boundless space. When speaking of time--using a zero, 0--I would write it as G~0~D~~the eternal Now.
A modern translation of Genesis 1:1-3, with my notes in colour: New Living Translation (NLT)
1 In the beginning God (In Hebrew it is ELOHIM--a plural word meaning Being of beings ) created the heavens and the earth.
2 The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters (empty Space). And the Spirit of God was hovering (vibrating, or moving) over the surface of the waters.
3 Then God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light--(the so called "BIG bang").

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i can just say from my personal view how big this universe is. it like thousands of camel walking in desert, each carrying a box full of thousands of marble. each marble completes have is like a single solar system.

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Originally Posted By: Rev
Then God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light--(the so called "BIG bang").


Nice one Rev; you've just caught up with the RC Church! smile


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