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#44196 - 07/09/12 11:39 AM Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah.
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Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah.

Stalin's original Georgian name means Joseph son of Judah.

Unfortunately, SAGG software cannot handle Georgian characters.

So, to view the argument in a readable format, click the following link;

http://preearth.net/images/stalin-son-of-judah-big.gif

It provides a larger image of the one below which has been automatically reduced in size by SAGG software.




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#44198 - 07/09/12 12:43 PM Re: Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah. [Re: preearth]
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This is specially for Orac.
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#44200 - 07/09/12 04:06 PM Re: Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah. [Re: preearth]
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Like, who cares? This is not really appropriate material for a Science Forum. If you want to talk linguistics, go find anyman. This is defamatory in nature. Please mind your manners.
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#44510 - 07/31/12 04:02 AM Re: Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah. [Re: Amaranth Rose II]
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Originally Posted By: Amaranth Rose II
Like, who cares?

Seems like you do.



Edited by Mike Kremer (07/31/12 02:32 PM)
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#44518 - 07/31/12 03:05 PM Re: Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah. [Re: preearth]
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Originally Posted By: preearth
Originally Posted By: Amaranth Rose II
Like, who cares?

Seems like you do.



Originally Posted By: Mike Kremer


Mike Kremers reply to preearth.

If you want people to answer and reply to your posts ,you need to put in something more substantial and provable into your subjects. You are not going to get any replys to an unknown subject...unless you are able to expand upon it.
Just like you had to do after you started "Plate Techtonics" many moons ago.Obviously you can expand until you can not find anything new to expound upon.
That is called flogging a dead horse...when people lose interest, and dont reply anymore ..one usually looks for another subject
Give people interesting clean facts so no-one need say 'who cares'. Nor will you have to be so rude to a Moderator working in SAGG, who does her best to keep this Science site clean and free of spam
There is not much point in printing out Cyrillic
characteurs ...to say his name meant the 'Lion of Judah'.
unless you put some put some historical 'meat' into your posts...Then every one will be happy to care and read your posts.

Stalin was probably quite proud that his name meant "The Lion of Judah"....and also that his surname used to end in ******villi. That is the ending attached to the end of surnames of many Jews in that part of the world,... it is especially prevalent in Iran today.
Also remember that Joseph Stalin what ever his faults, gave 1n 1934, a huge area of land in South Russia for the Jews to live in, forever. I belive it was called Birobidzan .(or similar)

If you give readers a few facts to your posts, you will have no complaints. If you have no facts to substantiate in what you write, then please put those future posts in the "Not Quite Science area". Which is where I believe your "Plate Techtonics and Earth Coalese" should have been placed long ago.

*** Late addition
I have found the correct name in Google, it is spelt-

BIROBIDZHAN...and was a large autonomous state in S Russia that Stalin gave to the Jews.
quite a lot of info there.








Edited by Mike Kremer (07/31/12 09:00 PM)
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#44527 - 08/01/12 02:07 AM Re: Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah. [Re: preearth]
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Thanks Mike-- Interesting info. I did not know about the Jewish enclave.

preearth on the other hand!!!
What was the point of that post other than to be on the edge of unsettlingly nasty denigration of something or someone. Which I suppose, if it was Stalin, would be OK(!) but I don't think that was all that was intended. Nasty stuff.

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#45155 - 09/01/12 05:08 AM Re: Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah. [Re: preearth]
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For those who would like to be able to cut and paste this article, go to;

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=33646
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#45786 - 10/13/12 06:31 AM Re: Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah. [Re: Mike Kremer]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Kremer
BIROBIDZHAN...and was a large autonomous state in S Russia that Stalin gave to the Jews.

So the evil Stalin gave the Jews a HOMELAND called BIROBIDZHAN (within the Soviet Union).

Why did he do that?
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#45789 - 10/13/12 11:01 PM Re: Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah. [Re: preearth]
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Originally Posted By: preearth
Originally Posted By: Mike Kremer
BIROBIDZHAN...and was a large autonomous state in S Russia that Stalin gave to the Jews.

So the evil Stalin gave the Jews a HOMELAND called BIROBIDZHAN (within the Soviet Union).

Why did he do that?
WHY? Preearth and Mike: The question raised is a very important one. IMO, Comments containing questions as to why we "human beings" do evil are what I call "pneumatological" (spiritual) questions, not just mental and physical, ones. We need to keep asking ourselves such questions. It could help us evolve to be truly humane beings.

BTW, the Bible is filled with stories where close relatives--Jews and Christians--did lots of evil to one another.


Edited by Revlgking (10/13/12 11:07 PM)
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#45790 - 10/14/12 05:07 PM Re: Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah. [Re: preearth]
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Originally Posted By: preearth
Originally Posted By: Mike Kremer
BIROBIDZHAN...and was a large autonomous state in S Russia that Stalin gave to the Jews.

So the evil Stalin gave the Jews a HOMELAND called BIROBIDZHAN (within the Soviet Union).

Why did he do that?


Originally Posted By: Wikipedia
According to Joseph Stalin's national policy, each of the national groups that formed the Soviet Union would receive a territory in which to pursue cultural autonomy in a socialist framework. In that sense, it also responded to two supposed threats to the Soviet state:

Judaism, which ran counter to official state policy of atheism

Zionism the advocacy of a Jewish national state in Palestine which countered Soviet views of nationalism.

The Soviets envisaged setting up a new "Soviet Zion", where a proletarian Jewish culture could be developed. Yiddish, rather than Hebrew, would be the national language, and a new socialist literature and arts would replace religion as the primary expression of culture.

Stalin's theory on the National Question regarded a group as a nation only if it had a territory, and since there was no Jewish territory, per se, the Jews were not a nation and did not have national rights. Jewish Communists argued that the way to solve this ideological dilemma was by creating a Jewish territory, hence the ideological motivation for the Jewish Autonomous Oblast. Politically, it was also considered desirable to create a Soviet Jewish homeland as an ideological alternative to Zionism and the theory put forward by Socialist Zionists such as Ber Borochov that the Jewish Question could be resolved by creating a Jewish territory in Palestine. Thus Birobidzhan was important for propaganda purposes as an argument against Zionism which was a rival ideology to Marxism among left-wing Jews.


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#45932 - 11/03/12 02:33 AM Re: Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah. [Re: Bill]
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[quote=Mike Kremer}

Mike Kremer has found;-

Another interesting item about Stalins Jewish enclave that has
surfaced on Google.
Apparently Birobidzhan is still around and thriving in Russia
(according to the following URL)

http://www.swarthmore.edu/Home/News/biro/

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#45935 - 11/03/12 05:12 PM Re: Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah. [Re: Mike Kremer]
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History - yes.
Sociology - yes.
Religion - yes.
Science - not quite?
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#45937 - 11/04/12 02:11 AM Re: Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah. [Re: Bill S.]
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Yes but NQI--

Nearly Quite Interesting!

I did not know about this at all-- and it is Probably very QI.

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#47339 - 01/05/13 01:37 AM Re: Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah. [Re: Ellis]
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Originally Posted By: Ellis
Yes but NQI--

Nearly Quite Interesting!

I did not know about this at all-- and it is Probably very QI.

I thought that this was amazingly interesting. That is why I added it to this site.
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#48249 - 03/04/13 03:09 AM Re: Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah. [Re: preearth]
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SAGG should really support Unicode characters.
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#49542 - 08/26/13 07:33 AM Re: Joe Stalin = Joseph son of Judah. [Re: preearth]
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SAGG should really support Unicode characters.

What sort of science site is it that can't display Greek characters????

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