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you're not being consistent.

Paul writes:

like if I use 1000 watts * 50 hours = 50,000 watts or 50kwh.


False. 1000 watts * 50 hours <> 50,000 watts

Correct. 1000 watts * 50 hours = 50kwh

What does kwh stand for?

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get out of this discussion , your doing nothing but trying to
stall any progress that might be accomplished if you were not in it.

I have already told you that I am not using algebra and if you dont leave this discussion I will see if the moderators can do anything about it.

if you want to discuss algebra and all of the wrong ways that normal people use math then start up a discussion to discuss algebra.

but get out of this discussion with your discussion of algebra.

this thread is not about algebra.

I made you a place to discuss algebra in the not quite science forum , please refrain from any further algebra
jargon in this thread.

http://www.scienceagogo.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=40685#Post40685





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Discussion of algebra does not go in NQS.

Algebra belongs in any scientific discussion where it is applicable - and this is certainly among them. Asserting that it is not applicable does not make it inapplicable. You can ask the moderators anything you want.

I asked you what Kwh means. What does it mean? You used the term. Tell us what it means.

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What does "kwh" mean?

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I've asked Kate if theres a way that you can be prevented from posting your constant insistence on me using your methods of calculating math problems.


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Very good. I eagerly await her response.

In the meantime, can you tell us what "kwh" means?

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I'm not asking you to use "my" method. I'm asking you what "kwh" means.

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I posted a link to kwh in the NQS forum

titled

ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA


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Quote:
I'm not asking you to use "my" method.


right , its more like insisting

or demanding.

I still have a choice to use what I find to be proper math at least until the republicans have infiltrated the education system and have found a way to brainwash me into believing that your way of finding a solution to math problems in the real world is the proper method to use.

hopefully my proper brainwashing will be sufficient to withstand any infiltration of your way of performing math calculations.

however in order for republicans to remain in control of the government they must remove intelligence from most or a larger percentage of u.s. citizens than the percentage of inteligent u.s. citizens.

so they may be preparing methods to accomplish this goal as we speak.

you wouldnt know that you had already been prepared because the preparation removes your ability to detect its influences on you.

the fact that you teach children could very well mean that you were or are a prime target for the dumming of u.s. citizens so that republicans can remain in power.







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What does 'kwh' MEAN?

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Paul, have you had a chance to check google for 'kwh' yet?

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Hi Paul, what do you think about these? I'm trying to work out how to apply your system to any kind of operations.

80 bananas * 50 apples = 4000 bananas ??

80 m/s/s * 50 s = 4000 m/s/s ??

80 kg.m/s/s * 50 s = 4000 kg.m/s/s ??


Also, comparing what kwh means to what you wrote it as equivalent to would be enlightening!

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Quote:
80 kg.m/s/s * 50 s = 4000 kg.m/s/s ??


the same as saying

80N * 50 seconds = 4000N

1 N = 1 kgm/s2

you do realize that time is part of a newton dont you?

1 newton unit of force = 1kg per meter per second per second

so

2 newton units of force = 2 kg meters per second^2

or

2 newton units of force = 1 kg meters per 2 seconds^2

so

4000N = 80 kg meters per 50 seconds^2

which is

4000N = 80N * 50 seconds
or
80N * 50 seconds = 4000N








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Originally Posted By: paul

80N * 50 seconds = 4000N


What does 80N * 50 hours = ?

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What does 80N * 50 hours = ?


alot!!!
first you find the number of seconds in 50 hours.

60 seconds * 60 minutes * 50 hours = 180,000 seconds

80N * 180000 seconds = 14400000N

that would be the total force applied if you applied 80N each second over a time period of 50 hours

because each second you apply 80N for 1 second
you add 80N to the total force applied.

and total force is additive.








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In standard notation:

80N * 50 hours = 4000 N*hrs

80N * 50s = 4000 Ns

Either is acceptable, but one could convert between them easily enough.

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Quote:
80N * 50 hours = 4000 N*hrs

Quote:
80N * 50s = 4000 Ns


N*h would be newtons per hours !!
you would then have 4000N * 50 hours !!!

Ns would be newtons per second !!
you would then have 4000N * 1 seconds !!!

which would be correct if you used 4000N in 1 second
but you didnt you used the 4000N in 50 seconds


time is in a newton already

if I write that 1 newton is the force required to accelerate a 1kg mass to a acceleration rate of 1m/s/s
I already know that it will accelerate the 1 kg mass to an acceleration rate of 1m/s/s in 1 second because time is already there in the newton.

a newton unit of force is a combination of time , mass , distance , acceleration all whipped up into a single unit...


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Either is acceptable, but one could convert between them easily enough.


Neither is acceptable.

otherwise the description of 1 newton would be

1Ns is the amount of force applied to a mass of 1kg to accelerate the 1kg mass to an acceleration rate of 1m/s/s







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Ns means Newton-seconds which is "newtons times seconds"
because Ns is shorthand for N*s (the minus sign is actually a dash which is confusing, so they usually just write Ns)

Nhr means Newton-hours which is "newtons times hours."
Nhr is shorthand for N*hr

Newtons per seconds would be written N/s

Newtons per hour would be N/hr

Newton second = Ns

Newtons per second = N/s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton-second

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Ns means Newton-seconds which is "newtons times seconds"


what would 4000Ns be if you know the seconds are 50 seconds?

newtons * seconds !!!
4000N * 50 seconds ?

4000N only describes the total force.

you can apply it any way you want

but 4000Ns means what?

I think your confused in the same way you are with
square feet and feet squared


has the doctor given you a diagnosis yet?



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4000 Ns means "Four thousand Newton seconds"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton-second

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