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#40685  10/06/11 05:53 PM
ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA

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begin here!!
2 bananas * 2 bananas =
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#40687  10/06/11 06:03 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
[Re: paul]

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2 bananas * 2 bananas = 4 bananas^2
2x * 2x = 4x^2
2ft * 2ft = 2ft^2
m Unit1 * n Unit2 = m*n * Unit1*Unit2
Consult any algebra book.
Also, algebra does not go in NQS. It's a fundamental tool underlying all of advanced mathematics and science.
Edited by TheFallibleFiend (10/06/11 06:04 PM)

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#40688  10/06/11 06:03 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
[Re: paul]

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I say that
2 bananas * 2 bananas = 256^4789564532211 *bananas^.00000564321 *meters/s/s *2 retangle rhinoceroses relaxing on a rather rough rock reading rare recipes
Consult any algebra book and you will find a way to prove that the above is correct.
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#40689  10/06/11 06:05 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
[Re: paul]

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It's not surprising that someone who has never studied the subject would reach that conclusion.
Elementary math might as well be magic to the willfully ignorant.
Edited by TheFallibleFiend (10/06/11 06:06 PM)

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#40694  10/06/11 06:27 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
[Re: paul]

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Wow! The *nerve* of me to use math in a science forum!

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#40695  10/06/11 06:27 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
[Re: TheFallibleFiend]

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well we will just wait to see what your doctors tell you.
of course you said he wrote the wiki article maybe he just doesnt realize that you didnt want him to explain it so well.
so that it could remain an unknown , so that you can continue to teach children the way that you think things are in reality.
of course if he tells you something other than what you believe exist in reality you can always get a second opinion.
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#40696  10/06/11 06:29 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
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Wow! The *nerve* of me to use math in a science forum! its not that you use math , its that your math is inconsistent with correctness.
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#40697  10/06/11 06:30 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
[Re: paul]

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I don't teach kids the verbal stuff. I teach them the unambiguous mathematical notation  which you disagree with.
Of course, if the good Doctor says I'm wrong, I'll admit it, but it's a minor issue.
In the mean time, can you tell us what "kwh" means?

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#40698  10/06/11 06:32 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
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its not that you use math , its that your math is inconsistent with correctness.
Says you  the guy who has never taken algebra and refuses to open an algebra book. What does "kwh" mean?

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#40699  10/06/11 06:34 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
[Re: TheFallibleFiend]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilowatt_hour Correct. 1000 watts * 50 hours = 50kwh above you claim to know what kwh means. and when I said that 1000 watts * 50 hours = 50,000 watts I was correct , but you said it was wrong. 1000 * 50 realy does equal 50,000 !! its simple math but your algebra says its not correct and that is the problem with algebra. you say that 1000 watts * 50 hours = 50kwh and that is wrong.. its 1kw * 50 hours = 50kwh
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#40702  10/06/11 07:14 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
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Paul,
1000 watts * 50 hours = 50kwh That is correct.
1kw * 50 hours = 50kwh That is ALSO correct.
This is because 1kw means 1000 watts.
Now, can you tell me what 'kwh' means? It's a simple question.

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#40704  10/06/11 07:31 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
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Let's ignore the rest and focus on what we agree about:
1kw * 50 hours = 50kwh
What does "kwh" mean here? You can say it. We already know. But you ought to say it  for your own good.

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#40705  10/06/11 07:38 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
[Re: paul]

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2 bananas * 2 bananas = 4 bananas^2 As a mathematical answer, I have no problem with this, but: (4 bananas^2)/4 = 1 banana^2, I think. Would I be spoiling an academic discussion if I were to ask what, in the real world (whatever that is), is the distinction between: a banana and a banana^2?
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#40706  10/06/11 07:42 PM
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Is it possible that a banana^2 is a banana * a banana? and if so, is that different from 2 bananas  in a nonmathematical, realworld sort of way.
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#40707  10/06/11 07:43 PM
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Would I be spoiling an academic discussion if I were to ask what, in the real world (whatever that is), is the distinction between: a banana and a banana^2?
Part of the beauty of algebra  which is a foundation of all higher, analytic math (geometry, trig, analytic geometry, calculus, probability, statistics, differential equations, linear algebra, numerical analysis, etc.)  is that interim results don't need to have a physical interpretation. What's important is that what you have on both sides of an equal sign are actually equal  and that can't happen if the dimensions are inconsistent.

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#40708  10/06/11 07:45 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
[Re: paul]

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OK, OK, I know  the real world is a mathematical world  go back to sleep, that man!
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#40710  10/06/11 07:50 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
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Paul, you agree that
1kw * 50 hours = 50kwh
What does "kwh" mean here?

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#40712  10/06/11 08:16 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
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Paul,
Can you just google 'kwh' and tell us what it says?
That's not even algebra.

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#40713  10/06/11 09:16 PM
Re: ALGEBRA a discussion about ALGEBRA
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Visual representation of polynomial multiplication: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TBlQNnHVTwStill waiting to hear back what 'kwh' means.

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#40716  10/07/11 01:58 AM
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