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Originally Posted By: Socratus
Does Physical Infinity exist? If it exist then:
1) What is connection between the infinity and the concreteness?


Can you be sure that physical infinity is not concrete?


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You still haven't told me what religion either socratus.


Getting a straight answer from Socratus is a bit like winning the lottery. What makes you think you will hit the jackpot with this one? smile


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Theory: i.e. possible answer to at least one of Scoratus's questions.

The cosmos is infinite - it is the sum total of existence, boundless, timeless, un-differentiated and changeless. It is dimensionless and has no parts, because every part would have to be the whole.

Our Universe appears to us to be finite, bounded by three dimensions of space and one of time, because we are constrained to view reality within these parameters.

Regarding the Universe as finite (albeit unbounded) and four dimensional is the only way in which our study/understanding of it can make any sense to us.

OK; I know this is only the thought of a rank amateur, and I know I have posted it (at least in essence) before; but I am yet to be convinced of its absurdity.


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The play between infinity and finite .
1.
Can a finite space have infinite parameters ?
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I think the answer is ‘no’. Why?
Because to create our finite world
( for example: our planet Earth and the life on it)
the Nature needs limited numbers of constants.
They are the values that cannot be derived from theory
of creation. Any infringement of these physical ( magic)
constants doesn’t permit this creation. ( for example:
the changing of electron’s charge or mass of proton
doesn’t permit creation of atom )
These limited ( magic) numbers of constants that needed
for our creation surprised scientists.
( For example, biologists know about 100 ( hundred - ! ) kinds
of amino acids. But only 20 ( twenty - ! ) kinds of amino acids
are suitable to produce molecules of protein, from which all
different cells created on our planet.)
There are many other examples about limited numbers
of constants that need for creation micro and macro worlds.
What are these concrete limited physical parameters
for Unlimited Infinity ?
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2.
Can an Infinite space have finite parameters ?
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If Infinite Space has infinite parameters then it is some
kind of abstraction. If Infinite Space is some kind of reality
it must have finite parameters. Can we know them ?
Yes, we can understand them if we find the source of Creation.
3.
How the play between infinity and finite is going ?
Isn’t it strange that Infinite Space can give ( for example)
finite parameters for our Earth’s creation ?
Does it mean that Infinite Space have Consciousness ?
Is Infinite Space something Divine ?
Or maybe this process of creation and evolution was going
by chance ?
Puzzle: ‘ By Consciousness or by Chance ? ‘ or
‘By Consciousness and by Chance ?’
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Sadovnik Socratus.
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With this letter I finish my participation on this forum.
Thank you to everybody who took part on this link.
Your participation was important to me because it help me
better to understand the situation in physics.
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Best wishes.
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I see you finally realize the dangers of conversations with the devil Socratus.

For he can show you infinity is an illusion and he can show you zero is something. They are both merely mortal and fallible extensions of an illussion of a persons mind.

And this can lead to a crisis in Socratus faith that zero and infinity are a representation of his god. There is no crisis in physics because the devil can see thru word games and he knows what you mean.

We thank you for input and wish you well.

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Originally Posted By: Socratus
Can an Infinite space have finite parameters ?


I believe not; but I see no reason why, in an infinite cosmos, finite beings might be unable to see beyond finite parameters - it's back to the spider in Flatland!


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