:kallog:What's the difference between somebody born in China and somebody born in America?
they are born in different countries.
one is born into freedom and one is born into communism.
one has the rights to choose.
and one has no choice to choose.
one may attend a trade school then move to a city to work in that trade if he chooses.
and one may be ordered to move to a city to work in a trade wether he likes it or not.
etc..etc..etc...
:kallog:You are saying the person lucky enough to be born in America has some birthright to take advantage of the work other people (who happen to be Americans) have done.
No , Im saying that the work that americans put into building america and what was its
industrial base has been traded away by the republicans for their constituents
(the elite class in america ) because of the lower wages in china and other countries.
:kallog:But foreigners don't have that right.
sure they do , foreighners could have had their own revolution like americans had to remove
the elite as their leaders, in this case the brittish elite.
or we could refer to them as the brittish republican elite class.
then they could have established a fair and liberal government that does not prefer the elite
but prefers all.
theres nothing wrong with the elite in general , they give non elites a sence of hope that they may someday rise to their level of wealth.
hope is a good thing as long as there is hope available.
but in the old days you had to be born into the elite !!!
these days you can work your way into being the elite.
and that is what a lot of americans want to do , but the current ruling republicans in america
have all but dissabled hope.
because they removed the ability of an american to rise to their level through trade restricitons removal.
in other words its extremely difficult to run a buisness and compete with the wages of china
and other low wage countries.
and the only way this will ever be remedied will be to replace those trade restrictions.
if a buisness in china can build a product and ship it to america for $10.00
and a buisness in america must pay out $20.00 to build a similar product then there should be
a $10.00 tax placed on the chinese product as soon as it enters the country.
and whoever has purchased that product to sell in america should pay the tax.
this way it would be the consummers choice to support americans or to support the chinese.
and visa versa ...
:kallog:Neither the American child nor the Chinese child born today actually developed production lines, internet, color TV or nuclear power.
But their relatives did , and their relatives fought and died so that their childern could have a better life and not be ruled over by elite tyrants that only care about their riches and allow the citizen to starve and remain poor peasants who's only purpose in life is to serve the tyrants.
:kallog:So why should one person have more rights to them than the other?
because in a country whose citizens have hope for what they can accomplish there is a
sence of ability that breeds ingenuity and those citizens can achieve more than citizens
who really cannot expect to accomplish much in their lifetime.
so the rights of the one ends where the others rights begin.
citizens of a communist nation believe that all things are everyones things.
but their rights to all things stop at their nations borders.
they do not have a right to other peoples things beyond their border.
:kallog:You prefer an elite ruling class of rich Americans keeping the rest of the world in poverty, for no other reason than pride in the superiority of their class (country)?
No. I dont , I would prefer that other countries would have taken the initiative and expended the effort to remedy their own destiny.
and I would prefer that the rulers of nations ( those that make the rules ) did not make the
rules in favor of only a few people but of all people.
and the rules that are in place are in favor of the low wage countries.
:kallog:Remind you of Europe all over again?
Not really , the people are beginning to see through whats happening in the world.
even Donald Trump a Republican knows that the trade issues are destroying his country.
it is still legal for some peasant american to start up a buisness in america , so
perhaps many of these peasants gathering together can start up buisnesses that will cause
the trade issues to change , perhaps they will only buy products that are made in america by americans for the sole purpose of giving their children hope.
No , I dont see europe all over again , I see american ingenuity , integrity , I see america rising out of the mire its currently stuck in , its what we do , its how we started.
we dont need to pick up arms against an oppressor , we only need to use the most feared weapon
we possess in a manner that will reduce our our enemies to dust and that weapon is
where we spend our money.
like you said
The most powerful form of democracy - vote with your feet
But we dont run.
I think The most powerful form of democracy - vote with your money
its the only thing the elite understand.
once they see that they can no longer make money using other than american labor
they will find a way to make money , its what they do , there really good at it.
so they will begin to reinvest in american labor.