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BRITAIN'S foremost fertility expert Lord Winston, says advances in medical technology mean men can now bear children.

Lord Winston, who as Professor Robert Winston was ennobled three years ago by Tony Blair, says doctors could use today's techniques to implant an embryo in a man's abdomen, allowing him to carry it to term and then
have it delivered by caesarean section.
The treatment, overturning millions of years of evolution, would allow homosexual couples to have children and help heterosexuals if the woman could not become pregnant.
"Male pregnancy would certainly be possible and would be the same as when a woman has an ectopic pregnancy - outside the uterus.
Winston, who will outline the concept in his new book, The IVF Revolution, to be published in April. 2000.

Dr Simon Fishel, director of the Centre for Assisted Reproduction in Nottingham, said: "There is no reason why a man could not carry a child. The placenta provides the necessary hormonal conditions, so it doesn't have to be inside a woman."
The procedure's possibilities were recently demonstrated in the remarkable case of a woman in Oxfordshire who carried a baby outside her womb.
A scan revealed the embryo had travelled into the mother's abdomen and had attached itself to her bowel. She decided to continue with this rare type of ectopic pregnancy and the baby was delivered without mishap.

Dr Gillian Lockwood, a clinical research fellow at the John Radcliffe hospital, Oxford, who knew about the case, said: "This shows the possession of a uterus is not absolutely necessary and that male pregnancies are theoretically possible."
Although leading figures in the homosexual community predicted that there would be many gay couples keen to carry their own children, any fertility doctor considering it would have to obtain approval from the UK Human
Fertilisation and Embryology Authority.
Suzanne McCarthy, chief executive of the authority, said: "If an application were made, we would give it serious consideration but we would not be interested only in the science of how safe and effective it would be,
but also why it was being done."
Tim Hedgley, chairman of the national fertility association Issue,welcomed the possibility of allowing men to be mothers. "It is not ghoulish in any way and you certainly could not stop a man from doing this in legal terms on the grounds of sex, because that would be discrimination," he said.
Some scientists, however, rejected the treatment out of hand. The fact that male pregnancies were possible did not mean they should be allowed.


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Surely this is like human cloning, we know it could be done, but like mike says--should it be done?


Of one thing I am certain--- if this idea became 'normal' and men bore the children, then families would consist of only children.

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Originally Posted By: Ellis
Surely this is like human cloning, we know it could be done, but like mike says--should it be done?

Of one thing I am certain--- if this idea became 'normal' and men bore the children, then families would consist of only children.


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Its not cloning ---as the mans sperm and the womans egg is being used. The only difference is that the baby,
is allowed to come to term in an artificial womb.

Some people who want a baby, can get quite desperate,
what ever their age or health....they opt for IVF etc. what ever their age.
Opt today, meaning almost another word for money. Hehe

Still there are some amazing things done...Like women walking around with twenty or thirty of their eggs
taken from their fallopian tubes and implanted live, into their arms.
Where they will remain alive, but dormant until she wants to have a baby.
In these cases she is probably having Radium treatment for stomach or intestinal cancer, which would destroy her ovarian eggs in that area. So her eggs are saved into her arms, ..fact.



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Originally Posted By: MK
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BRITAIN'S foremost fertility expert Lord Winston, says advances in medical technology mean men can now bear children.


That was almost 12 years ago. Is it known if any men have taken up the challenge yet?


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Originally Posted By: B S.

Mike Kremer said,

BRITAIN'S foremost fertility expert Lord Winston, said in Nov:1999. advances
in medical technology means, men can now bear children.


Originally Posted By: B.S

B.S said:-
That was almost 12 years ago. Is it known if any men have taken up the challenge yet?


Originally Posted By: Mike Kremer

Mike Kremer said;

American Doctors did implant a fertilised human egg onto the outside of a Man's stomach, some years ago.
Where it attached itself and grew bloodvessels, as though it was a placenta. The experiment was discontinued after 7 weeks.

Your other question:
It would require a very brave man, together with the help of his dedicated medical team to have a baby by Cesaerian section after nine months.
We will all hear about it soon enough, were it to happen.



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When I said this is 'like' cloning I did not mean that the procedure was the same as cloning. I meant that the ethical problem raised was similar- ie that maybe be both could be done, but should either be done. Reproductive science is outpacing our experiences very fast indeed.

I must confess to some amazement that so far there seems to be no credible account of cloned humans being successfully gestated. It may be that the first man to carry a child would be thus able to satisfy his desire for that child most completely by implanting his clone and thus becoming not only the sperm donor but also the gestational parent.

As usual Shakespeare has a few words for it --- "Oh brave new world that has such people in it". (OK I adapted the quote a bit!)


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