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#36365 09/30/10 06:02 PM
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Fresh off the wires (yesterdays wires, that is), but astronomers have found the first potentially habitable planet, as in it has the possibility of liquid water on its surface and an atmosphere:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/29/AR2010092907492.html

It has a surface gravity ~3X that of earth, and is tidally locked, so its unlikely the "grays" come from there wink

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Didn't take long to find, and only 20 lt yrs away. Very good news (to me anyway).


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Crankin'! Even without life, maybe somebody can go there oneday! Except for the uncomfortable 3g part.

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Even without life, maybe somebody can go there oneday!


Have you started working on your list of people you would like to send there?


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Have you started working on your list of people you would like to send there?

Gawdelpus, a planet full of spammers and trolls! Worse than Douglas Adams' Golgafrinchan telephone sanitizers.

Anyway, I'm placing my bet that one day there'll be good evidence of extraterrestrial DNA.


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It has a surface gravity ~3X that of earth, and is tidally locked, so its unlikely the "grays" come from there.
Thanks...

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[quote=laila34]It has a surface gravity ~3X that of earth, and is tidally locked, so its unlikely the "grays" come from there.
Thanks...


Hey where's that spam filter again???

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"but astronomers have found the first potentially habitable planet, as in it has the possibility of liquid water on its surface and an atmosphere." There is already one found called planet Earth.. wink

Liquid water is not enough of evidence of life, as water is actually quite common, considering Hydrogen is the number one substance, flowed by Helium and Oxygen.

For sure it must have liquid water and an atmosphere, just like all the rocky planets on our solar System, the question is , does it possess oceans? What makes our planet rather unique is not liquid water but the presence of oceans, created during an impact with an object about the size of Mars called Theia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_impact_hypothesis about 4.5 billions years ago.

The chances of that happening to a different planet to the same way it happened to Earth are rather slim-to-one..

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Originally Posted By: Armadillo_Tamer
"but astronomers have found the first potentially habitable planet, as in it has the possibility of liquid water on its surface and an atmosphere." There is already one found called planet Earth.. wink

The earth is habitable, not potentially habitable wink

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For sure it must have liquid water and an atmosphere, just like all the rocky planets on our solar System, the question is , does it possess oceans? What makes our planet rather unique is not liquid water but the presence of oceans


Any significant amount of surface water will lead to oceans, no large impacts are required. Mars appears to have had a very large ocean, early in its history. Europa also appears to have oceans; in fact, it may be 100% ocean under its frozen surface.

Whether oceans are required for life to form is a completely different question. Unrooted phylogentic trees suggest that the last universal common ancestor (LUCA) was likely a hypperthermophile - organisms which live in hot-springs, around sub-sea vents, and deep within the crust of the earth itself. Assuming that this indicates the conditions that led to the evolution of the LUCA, an ocean (where abiotic chemicals would be quite dilute) would be one of the last places we'd expect to see life forming. Rather, we'd expect it to occur in hot springs, or perhaps within the crust of the earth itself - i.e. places where appropriate temps and high concentrations of abiotic materials will be maintained.

Bryan

The chances of that happening to a different planet to the same way it happened to Earth are rather slim-to-one.. [/quote]


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