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Science or Religion ?
Religion tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
That is the truth.
So, what is Religion?
Religion is the poor man's philosophy.

Modern Physics tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
That is the truth.
For example: One Galaxy can eat another Galaxy.
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Cosmic cannibalising:
Images show one galaxy engulfing another
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scienc...er-1780652.html
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The Discovery of one Galaxy "Attacking" Another
http://www.astronomyexpert.co.uk/the-recent-discovery-of-one-galaxy-attacking-another.html
. . .. etc
So, what is Physics?
Physics is the poor man's philosophy.
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What to do?
I think we must answer to the simple classic question:
what did come first the chicken or the egg ?
If somebody didn’t understand this question, I will ask it simpler:
What was before Vacuum or Gravity ?
Does Gravity exist in Vacuum or vice versa?
Why I ask these questions.
Because the Universe ( as a whole ) is Two- Measured,
there are two Worlds: Vacuum and Gravity.
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Israel Socratus.

Science and religion are fundamentally different things. Science informs us as far as we are capable of discerning how the world works, but it doesn't tell us what we ought to do or what we ought to value. To that end we need to turn to something else - it can be philosophy (in the form of ethics), or it can religion.

Mixing them is like mixing bleach with ammonia; it produces a noxious gas that probably isn't very useful for the intended purpose.

IMO, science simply means 'knowledge'. This poses all kinds of questions:
Are scientists only interested in asking somatological questions?
Are there no psychological questions worth asking?
Are there no pneumatological questions worth asking?
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Interestingly, the Old English word deofol--from which we get our word 'devil'--comes ultimately from the Greek diabolos. From it we get the word 'diabolic', meaning like the devil--one who is very cruel and wicked--human, but not humane.

Very real people among us, including all the professions--clergy, scientists, teachers, etc--and all the trades and arts, even some who write here, are quite capable of being diabolic and inhumane. Diabolic people like to divide and conquer. The Hebrew and Arabic languages use 'satan' and 'shatan'--one who splits us from others--as their translation of devil, diablo.

If this is not worthy of study I do not know what is. I call the over-all science 'pneumatology'--the scientific study of what it means to be, for better or for worse, spiritual beings.

Of course there can be categories, including areas of special interest--physically, mentally and spiritually speaking. But this does not imply that they must operate as being totally separated from one another.

One-legged and/or two-legged stools, by themselves, are of little value. IMO, the study and use of things somatologically only--that is, without psychology and pneumatology involved--is a diabolic enterprise.

Rev,

Science isn't determined by whether something is "worth asking." It's determined by 1) a method and 2) an area of applicability. In ancient times, "science" meant "knowledge." In modern times, the definition is more refined. Lots of people "know" lots of things that are false; what many people "know" transcends wrongness into abject stupidity. Some "knowledge" is actually 'anti-knowledge.' Using the word science to describe every scrap of "knowledge" is misleading.

In AWT science is in duality with religion due the dual nature of observable reality: the more logical explanation we can get, the more absurd assumptions about underlying reality it requires. For example Big Bang theory can explain the formation of our Universe in "logical" way under assumption of infinitely dense and hot singularity at the price. Such singularity cannot be formed in causal way - only created by omnipotent God. AWT goes even further with its assumption of infinitely hot and dense Aether. As a result, most abstract and advanced scientific theories are converging into untestable vague landscapes of many solutions in the same way, like religion.

The dual nature of science can be demonstrated by Gödel's theorem in context of Bohmian implicate geometry of causal space. Every scientific theory is based on at least single causal/logical connection between two or more axioms/postulates/assumptions, i.e. an implication tensor defining the cardinality and compactness/consistency of formal logic system built upon implication. But the consistency of two different postulates can be never confirmed with certainty - or we could replace them by single one and we could never have some implication between them anymore, but a tautology (zero rank tensor of causal space).

In such way, the scope of every causal (atemporal) logics is always limited, because it remains based on insintrically inconsistent axioms - or we couldn't have some logics at all. In particular, at the moment, when some Theory Of Everything defines a time arrow, it becomes tautological, because validity of every implication depends on time arrow vector of antecedent and consequent. Such conclusion leads us to the understanding, every Theory Of Everything (a TOE based on no assumptions) is necessarily tautological by its very nature in the same way, like dual concept of God - and as such not very useful in causal perspective for the rest of society.

Some more ‘ true’ Physical fables and fantasies.
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1.
The Big Bang.
Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter
(all elementary particles and all quarks and their
girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks, all kinds of
waves: electromagnetic, gravitational, muons…
gluons field ….. etc.) – was assembled in a ‘single point ‘
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I don’t agree with the ‘big bang’ theory because nobody
knows how the ‘ big bang’ can change into ‘single point ‘
if Hawking’s radiation from ‘ black hole’ doesn’t give it
to happen.
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Most of elementary particles were got in artificial way,
using accelerators. This way, in my opinion, is mistaken.
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In the Ancient Egypt people believed in many gods with
human body and animal’s head. They thought they really
existed. For me these new discovered elementary artificial
particles are similar to Egyptian’s gods because we cannot
meet them into any atom, in any physical, chemical, biological
processes on our Earth.
In the Ancient Greek the people believed that sphinxes and
centaurs really exist. Maybe now some geneticists can create
a centaur, but it will be Devil’s work. I am sorry to tell that,
but it seems to me, physicists, creating such elementary
artificial particles look like those ‘some geneticists’.
( The mad CERN’s way.
http://www.spacekb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/astronomy/13338/The-mad-CERN-s-project ).
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Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, there was ‘ bin bang’.
And every particle appears with its own spin as derivative from
the Big Bang.
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I think the spin of quantum particle doesn’t come from
big bang, but it comes with ‘ virtual particle from Dirac’s sea’.
Why?
We have the real particle – electron. Nobody doubts
it is a real particle. But a strange thing happens when it
interacts with Vacuum. All its physical parameters become
infinite. Why? Is it possible? What is the reason?
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The conditions of the ocean permitted to create different kinds
of fish. The terrestrial’s conditions permitted to create different
kinds of animals. And the ‘mixed’ conditions of water, earth
and air on Earth permitted to create, for example, birds, which
live and act in these three conditions.
And if we take Universe as a whole, it is Two- Measured:
close by Material ( Gravity) World exists Infinite Vacuum World.
The conditions in these two Worlds are different.
And when electron moves from Material (Gravity) World to the
Infinite Vacuum World its physical parameters changes.
" The law of conservation and transformation energy / mass"
is connected with electron’s transformation.

We know the electron is very important particle in our live.
It acts in Maxwell’s electrodynamics.
It acts in the atom.
But how electron acts in cell and in Outer space we don’t know.
We need time to understand this fact.
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P.S.
Tell me what an electron is and I'll then tell you everything.
/ Somebody./
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Another ‘ true’ Physical fables and fantasies:
The time that stretches and space that expands,
dark matter, dark energy, Higgs boson, quarks, gluons
and tachyons, axions and partons, qravitino , . . etc.
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P.S.
"One thing I have learned in a long life:
that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive
and childlike - and yet it is the most precious thing we have."
/ Einstein./
This quote is correct, because, at last, only Physics can
logically explain us the Ultimate Nature of Reality.
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