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#1618 06/01/05 01:53 AM
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CONVERSATION with AJAY SHARMA (Lecturer Physics, worked on Einstein?s over 22 years, starting since BSc II) ;
Modification / extension of Einstein?s E=mc2
physicsajay@rediffmail.com 0091-92187 -96236, 0091-98160-04244,

1. What is E=mc2 ? What is its importance?
E=mc2 is the most wonderful and significant equation is physics. In 1945 the explosion of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were base upon this equation. According to this mass (m) can be converted to energy (E) and energy can be converted to mass.
2. This equation is doing well since past 100 years then where is the inconsistency?
The inconsistency lies in its mathematical derivation (a method to obtain a mathematical equation). In his 1905 paper Einstein did not derive it mathematically but in true sense speculated it. Einstein earlier derived L = mc2 (light energy mass conversion equation). Then Einstein speculated that what is true for light energy (L) the same is true for every energy (E). This speculation results in E=mc2, such a significant equation must be based upon a specific mathematical derivation and not on speculation.
3. Is Einstein?s derivation of L =mc2 correct?
The derivation of L=mc2 is incomplete or true in special conditions only.
Einstein took just handpicked parameters out of numerous possible, to obtain the equation. Einstein was aware of the reality so he left in midway after getting the desired result. If all valid values of parameters are taken, then results are contradictory in nature.
4. What are contradictory results?
The results blatantly contradict Law of Conservation of Matter. I have scientifically confirmed the same. No limitation can be bigger than this in science.
5. Was E=mc2 or similar ideas existed before Einstein?
Yes, E=mc2 existed before Einstein. An Italian Olinto de Pretto published E=mc2 in valid scientific journal Lettere ed Atti, Feb. 1904, two years before Einstein. But Pretto died in 1921, before its experimental confirmation in nuclear physics.
6. Einstein speculated E=mc2 from L=mc2. What is the problem here?
Firstly derivation of L=mc2 is incomplete or under special conditions only. Secondly Einstein originated E=mc2 on the basis of speculation only without any conceptual and mathematical basis. Basically Einstein replaced L by E in equation L=mc2 to get E=mc2.
7. Then how did you derive new equation, dE =Ac2dm (or E = Ac2 M )?
I have derived new equation between mass-energy conservation by simple calculus method. In dE =Ac2dm, A is a co-efficient of proportionality like numerous others in science. It is dimensionless variable.
8. How do you compare these two equations?
Firstly dE =Ac2dm is based upon a conceptual and mathematical derivation. On the other hand E=mc2 is a speculation, it is bitter truth. Secondly dE =Ac2dm is a general equation and E=mc2 is its special case. Energy emitted by new equation can be less, equal to or more than predicted by E=mc2.
9. How did you justify your equation experimentally?
In Nuclear Physics there are some anomalous results which cannot be explained by E=mc2 . Like this there are some instances in astrophysics where my equation is extremely useful.
10. Is your work recognized by international scientific community?
Yes, it is completely recognized.
11 Have you got any recognition certificate from the scientific community?
The only way to get scientific recognition is that to get the work published in peer review international journals and conferences.
My research papers are either published in international journals from America, England and Canada or being published . I have got invitation from at least 40 International Conferences to present my work .I have presented my research in England, Germany, Taiwan Ukraine etc. I have invitation from France and Italy to present my work this year.
12. Can this work be introduced in introduced in School and colleges?
Yes my wok is scientifically approved in journal in USA, CANADA and England. Hence it can be so done by any country. IT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE WORK.
13. How do you counter the opposition of the people which has come in you your way?
Science is the international language. For this, I take seriously the logical conclusions of the critics. I completely ignore the irresponsible critics, as they don?t exist.
14. What about your book Modification in Einstein?s E=mc2?
This book is being published soon. It will bring clear and unbiased picture of the facts.
Science today is not the same in 16th 0r 17th century. We should aim at 22nd or 23rd century scientific scenarios. *AJAY SHARMA Set No 4 Asst. Surgeon Block Ripon Hospital campus Shimla 171001 HP INDIA

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Dear Ajay ,

I am not being a pessimist but really I have not yet come across any news about you in India...
If your prrof is correct then it should have been given broader media coverage in India and World because so much depends on this equation .. from creation of real particles to Cosmic Gamma ray explosions .. E= MC^2 is known to work.
I am really excited to know more about it.
Can you pls send us the proof.

Thanks
Dheeraj

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Your derivation at http://www.wbabin.net/ajay/einstein.htm
looks fine to me...
And in my opinion the formula has been there for quite sometime now and I think the inappilcability of the generalization points towards some other kind of restriction which is occuring naturally.This restriction will give back to us our symmetrical and simple euation of
E=Mc^2.
Wish you all the best !!

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snakker noen her inne norsk? somebody speak norwegian? tu parle norvegen? taler ni norska? if you don't understand any of these languages you'r stupid! goodbye

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I dont know any of those languages ....
I know only one language and that is the language of love..
You may call me Stupid for that reason but I dont mind ..:-))

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Given that Einstein didn't write e=mc^2 ... lets see you derive the formula that Einstein actually derived.

I must confess to being fascinated as to why such a world-class theoretical physicist, as you claim to be, would derive a formula popularized for the public.


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E=mc^2 is a trivial consequence of assigning the metric,

mass = sqrt(px^2 + py^2 + pz^2 - pt^2)
metric signature (+1,+1,+1,-1), Relativity

Internal inconsistencies in SR (inconsistencies of a purely mathematical logical nature) directly lead to contradictions in number theory and arithmetic. The mathematics of Minkowski geometry is equiconsistent with the theory of real numbers and with arithmetic.

Unless you are prepared to rewrite all of mathematics,

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I agree with Uncle AI ...
E=mc^2 is a good approximation of the relativistic equation which he has just mentioned...
I guess you need to show us something more in order to discuss it in detail..

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Ingrid Anita: Det m? bety at jeg ikke er dum. Now stop making an ass of norwegians. Det heter forresten ikke "you'r", men "you're".

Claiming that E=mc2 is no revolution, Hollywood has known about this for a long time.


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hahaha...
Norwegians understand E=mc2 better ...
That explains why they are so fat..

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dvk: the language of love... HAHA we understand E=mc2, alright, but I have seen fatter people in India. xxxx regards

^^johan, we're (haha) too confident with writing English. that's why we don't care about spelling mistakes

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vdk: We are fat because we eat alot of whale and baby-seals. With that we of course drink the only good thing ever to come from the US, Coca Cola. (I feel maybe that this thread is close to derailing).


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Ajay:

You wrote:
" The results blatantly contradict Law of Conservation of Matter."

I am fascinated by this statement. Perhaps you'd be so kind as to refer us to the origin of the law.

Because it does not exist in any physics I am aware of unless one goes back to before 1905.


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Yes Ajay .. you must up with some reply....
I hope you dont intend to make fool out of us.
We know that the Law of Conservation of Matter has been violated long ago and now we are only left with Law of Conservation of Energy and Matter.

In India people are fat .. but they are in minority because most of us prefer poverty in the name of religious fasting....(the truth is poverty is not an option here)
But getting biger and biger belly just because you are eating whales doesnt make me happy...
Whales loose their life to increaase your fat ... and you end up loosing your money in order to loose your extra fat...
you know the heart problem...
just kiddin!

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The Conservation of Matter was violated long ago when Protestants were told they could eat anything they wanted, so they did. Now 65% are grossly obese. This is also a blatant violation of the Conservation of Good taste, Manners, and Common Sense. Even the dumbest farmers know that when you mess with an animal's diet, it gets sick and dies. Protestants are the stupidest people ever to win a revolution and then completely squander any possible gains.


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Quote:
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Ajay:

You wrote:
" The results blatantly contradict Law of Conservation of Matter."

I am fascinated by this statement. Perhaps you'd be so kind as to refer us to the origin of the law.

Because it does not exist in any physics I am aware of unless one goes back to before 1905.

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Dear Morgan
Basically I have studied Einstein?s derivation of E=mc2 as given in Sep. 1905 paper.

I have completely analyzed, even Einstein has left his work incomplete.
Einstein's work is available at
Einstein?s 27 Sep 1905 paper available at http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/
If all cases are considered then it contradicts basic laws, This aspect is ignored by great Einstein.
My 40 page paper is in press in international journal from Canada. If you need it I will email you.
SINCERELY
AJAY SHARMA
Please find in attachment paper

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Dear Friends
Basically I have studied Einstein?s derivation of E=mc2 as given in Sep. 1905 paper.

I have completely analyzed, even Einstein has left his work incomplete.
Einstein's work is available at
Einstein?s 27 Sep 1905 paper available at http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/
If all cases are considered then it contradicts basic laws, This aspect is ignored by great Einstein.
My 40 page paper is in press in international journal from Canada. If you need it I will email you.
SINCERELY
AJAY SHARMA
Please find in attachment paper

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I think your work is quite impressive.
Not many have the patience to go through all that over E=mc2. I think you are right that all such simple equations are childishly naive.

I would like to see your comments on Gravitational Force = Gmm/d2 . This equation also seems like a farce to me. I notice they are already forced to abandon it in two cases:
(1) inexplicable deviations in spaceship trajectories.
(2) Bizzare orbital speeds at the outside edge of galaxies.

What do you think of these things?


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Thanks Ajay.

I am happy to see that your effort has been a well reasearched one...
Whatever may be the outcome ... you have done your work which is highly commendable.
Wish you all the very best !!

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Dear friends
Basically I have studied Einstein?s derivation of E=mc2 as given in Sep. 1905 paper.

I have completely analyzed, even Einstein has left his work incomplete.
Einstein's work is available at
Einstein?s 27 Sep 1905 paper available at http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/
If all cases are considered then it contradicts basic laws, This aspect is ignored by great Einstein.
My 40 page paper is in press in international journal from Canada. If you need it I will email you.
SINCERELY
AJAY SHARMA

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I have just gone through the Einstein's derivation and he has mentioned a constant C which is assumed to be the same for the two reference frames (which is not necessary)...
I guess Einstien's derivation is a special case...
There must be some generalized approach to the problem...
I excited to see your solution ...
Please send me the proof at the following id
onetreemanybranches@yahoo.com


Thanks

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It's nice to see two researchers getting along.
I knew not all independant scientists are cranks.


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To: PhysicsAjay

You wrote:
" Basically I have studied Einstein?s derivation of E=mc2 as given in Sep. 1905 paper."

Einstein didn't derive the equation you claim. Rather it is a simplification, for public consumption, based on conditions that do not exist in the universe to the best of our knowledge.

Others may be impressed by your body of work. I am still of the opinion that you have yet to demonstrate merit.


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