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#16170 09/03/06 12:38 PM
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Why don't people consider the center of a black hole to comprised of matter. Almost infinitely dense matter. This would be the cause of such a strong gravitational field, and the effect of having atracted so much matter to a finite space.


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mainly because it cant be "infinitely dense". the limit is the size of the nucleus of the atom. IF all the electrons are stipped away, AND all the space between the nucleuses were removed, there would be a certain amount of space the matter would have to take up. even if space within the nucleus was removed, it would still have a limit. This would leave the size of the star a few miles in size (for a very large star), which would make it a neutron star. when it turns into a black hole, it gets even smaller than that. Much smaller.


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I have read that Black holes could be the most efficient generators in the universe , is that what this study is getting at:

http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet/...&type=ALERT

Here's the free paper:
http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0511131

Lots of interesting comments here:
http://arstechnica.com/journals/science.ars/2006/8/4/4887


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From what I've read, many physicists reject the idea of atoms disitigrating at an event horizon, for some reason. I think this might have been part of the motivation for hawking's latest "11 paralell universe" theory.

But presuming that atoms, including their nuclei, disintigrate into protons, neutrons and electrons, why should they not then devide into quarks?


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mainly because it cant be "infinitely dense".
perhaps this is the reason the energy is released.

the pressures at the center of the black holes mass squeeze so much on the mass at the center that it converts to energy and escapes.


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So we are left with a paradoxical situation. Nothing should escape a black hole, but energy escapes to make way for more incoming matter and light, which could not escape?


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it is known that a star can bend light from a star behind it to make it appear as if it were somewhere else.

the bending is due to the gravity of the star that the light is passing.

light can also be bent using a electromagnet such as the one in front of you..the crt.

there is one plausible explanation that I can deliver and that is that the mass has a extremely powerfull magnetic field that will not allow light to escape and the reason the energy is released at its top and bottom is because that is its positive or negative end.

I still believe that there is mass inside a black hole.


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mainly because it cant be "infinitely dense".
perhaps this is the reason the energy is released.

the pressures at the center of the black holes mass squeeze so much on the mass at the center that it converts to energy and escapes.
the energy is not released from the center, its released from the shell just outside of the event horizon.


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