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#1466 05/24/05 04:35 PM
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Given the distribution of seas of natural gas on various moons throughout the Solar System, the presence of petrochemical sludge on comets, etc. it is apparent that not all petrochemicals are of biological origin.

Given the ability of people to manufacture petrochemicals out of organic waste, it is likewise apparent that some petrochemicals are of biological origin.

Now recent discoveries about life on this planet has led to revolutionary new estimates of total biomass. Among other things, the mass of extremophile bacteria living in hostile environments, even in the depths of the earth down to two miles or more is now estimated to be possibly greater than that of all other life forms combined.

More than that, these bacteria have been here since the very early stages of life on earth. It is likely their biomass which is the source of most of the petrochemicals which are of biological origin. Since they still exist, in the same environment, they are still being converted to petrochemicals today at essentially the same rate they always have been. Even if 'Fossil Fuels' are primarily biotic in origin, they are still a self renewing resource.

This raises the question of whether we are exhausting them at a rate greater than they are being renewed or not. This is a good question. Petrochemicals have been being seeped to the surface throughout history. Bacteria have fed on them and converted them to more friendly compounds, otherwise the surface of the earth would by now be nothing but a big oil sludge field.

Are we using oil more rapidly than oil would be converted by bacteria into less harmful (to us) product? Is it being generated more rapidly than we are using it? Is our use in a state of equilibrium with petrochemical generation from deep earth biomass? These are questions which we do not know the answers to. Still, knowing that the process which created our oil reservoirs is still occurring, and that the resource is being renewed does change the traditional view of the rapid or inevitable exhaustion of 'fossil fuels'.

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Interesting questions but irrelevant.

We will no longer have petrochemical industry within 100 years for the simple reason that this is not just about energy: It is about profitability.


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Given the distribution of seas of natural gas on various moons throughout the Solar System, the presence of petrochemical sludge on comets, etc. it is apparent that not all petrochemicals are of biological origin.
Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky predicted over 50 years ago that the planets, Venus and Jupiter, would have vast quantities of Hydrocarbon gases. He further predicted that both planets would have Seas of Petroleum, heavy Oils, and Methane. He was almost laughed out of 'existence' in 1949 when he published this, in his book called 'Worlds in Collision' He based these particular findings upon actual Biblical, Egyptian and Indian texts. And based upon his many experiments on the Polarising properties of petroleum and oils. He came to the conclusion that petroleum and oils both here and upon those two planets originated from Organic life. In particular from "Microbes and Vermin" (his words)

His predictions have since come true.
As have his many other findings in his other books. He has re-written the Chronological Order of Egyptian History, including the true dates of the Pharoahs, the Pyramids, the Sphinx and the wars with Israel and other tribes.

He is the only man who has ever been able to place, and prove the true chronological orders of the above events.
Unfortunately his re-dating of Egyptian and Jewish history has never been accepted...it would mean rewriting the Biblical history in the Bible, and a multitude of Egyptian datings.
Something no archeologist, or the Catholic Church or others were prepared to contemplate, even today.

I would urge anyone who is interested in ancient Biblical and Egyptian History to obtain copies
of his books (all out of print)

Worlds in Collision (1950)
Ages in Chaos (1952)
Earth in Upheaval (1955)
Peoples of the Sea 1961(sequel to Ages in Chaos)

He was a true Scientist of the 'old school'
Proficient in Chemistry, Law and Medicine plus the following languages-
Russian, Hebrew, Hiroglyphics, Sumarian, English and Indian.
He was responsible for finding and translating the only Egyptian stele, which recorded the events of the Jews in those times. Others have been erased or written over.
The "Israel Stele" of Merneptah, is now, only available to individuals with difficulty.

He was never recognised within his lifetime, until
Space Satellites and Space Spectrographic Telescopes arrived to prove him right.

He came to England in 1939, and later became a founder of Jerusalem University.

Obtain any one of his books, I guarantee you will never put it down.

Now back to Oil:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/864777.stm

And Life 3.5 Billion Years ago:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/418540.stm


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It is possible that within a hundred years petrochemicals will no longer be widely used. The current system developed haphazardly based on what was available. Changes are occurring. Natural gas which was once burnt off or just discarded is now a valuable resource. Changes happen, and the current system is not particularly efficient and does not allow us to exploit most possible energy resources efficiently. One reason why I believe in a future hydrogen standard energy economy.

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it is apparent that not all petrochemicals are of biological origin.
If the petroleum is even-numbered carbon species and contains polyisoprenoid marker compounds, it is biological in origin. Abiological hydrocarbon resources such as the South Africa's SASOL for linear hydrocarbons or Mobil ZSM-5 catalyst for aromatic gasoline are unmistakably different.

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