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http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4133&n=2

"Gravity?which is taught to our children as a law?is founded on great gaps in understanding. The laws predict the mutual force between all bodies of mass, but they cannot explain that force. Isaac Newton himself said, 'I suspect that my theories may all depend upon a force for which philosophers have searched all of nature in vain.' Of course, he is alluding to a higher power."


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I think believers could do a better job advancing their agenda if they would adopt something more along the lines of; God created a vacuum by removing himself. And that's the condition that we live in now.
If they tried something along these lines, it would be easier for them to blend their beliefs with the scientific community's.

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I think believers could do a better job advancing their agenda if they would adopt something more along the lines of; God created a vacuum by removing himself. And that's the condition that we live in now.
If they tried something along these lines, it would be easier for them to blend their beliefs with the scientific community's.
I wonder where he/it went?

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Hmmm, maybe just a little beyond the range of our sensors.

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The mentioned article published in the Onion is besides a big cranck, a good example of how well freedom of speech works: give everyone a chance to speak his or her mind and those who tell credible things can give new insights, those who make ridiculous claims make themselves known as such and are useful for an incredible good laugh. :0))

Another example of how well freedom of speech works can be found in another Science-a-go-go Forum, also about gravity, see
http://www.scienceagogo.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=000313;p=0

where a few people have tried to insult the raiser of this forum, but eventually those who discuss on the basis of arguments really appear to have the last decisive word. So again, freedom of speech works.

Again, besides the onion article being a hoax, to obtain arguments from an alledged holy book makes critisizing these arguments a blasfemous act which some folks still see as a crime...


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Uncle Al ... to quote James Traficant ...

"Many of them are so dumb they could throw themselves at the ground and miss"


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No, it's the great flying spaghetti monster. He is everywhere, always, making everything move as he chooses. Hail to the great flying spaghetti monster!!

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I suppose God made 1+1=2. He decided that a line and line = something that looks like a duck. And it gets more complicated. A spaghetti monster in a spaghetti world.

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Enough already..........I had a great laugh with the Pastafarians............now this is just depressing me.........free speech ends when your fist ends up in my brain


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Pastafarians. I like that. Hail to the great spaghetti monster! May he get equal time in Kansas. wink

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oh hey gravity is really cool. that bushy guyz disoverc it rite? lol idk i tot like knew ton. i learn in school.

im gonna look at my notes brb

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Uncle Al, that was a great post:


http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4133&n=2

"Gravity?which is taught to our children as a law?is founded on great gaps in understanding. The laws predict the mutual force between all bodies of mass, but they cannot explain that force. Isaac Newton himself said, 'I suspect that my theories may all depend upon a force for which philosophers have searched all of nature in vain.' Of course, he is alluding to a higher power."

Rep: This was the first time I read some of the ?science? the deeply religious folks gave been offering. ?Things fall to Earth because God is pushing them down? If their God existed he should have better things to do- like educating those PhD?s and Doctorates.

Even so there is a lingering mystery related to the effects of gravity. It is not believed to be dependent on electromagnetic effects yet the only things we find with similar effects are magnetic and static attraction. I argue, to the annoyance of some, that the positions of the orbiting objects has nothing to do with mutual attraction of the objects and that the respective objects could be swapped around and the orbits would be unchanged. If the Mass of an object did equate to the attraction exerted then Jupiter, it would seem, could have been pulled much closer to the Sun than it is, or not, depending on other factors unrelated to just Mass.

Those Bible thumping educators must learn a different science from ours.
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