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#10811 - 10/20/05 04:35 AM m-Theory
Anonymous
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"Maut or Jindagi Ab tere Hathon mein de diya re"- A quote from Movie Roja

First I would like to say something on taking decisions which concern Humans.
Infact all actions towards any Human must be justified based upon the priority of our Goal.
here it is to know the Truth of my statement.
How do we go about?
Assume I propose a Truth X and you choose to diagree.
Then let us ask Why do you disagree.
You say you diagree becuase ......I know a Truth a which is a part of Validated Theroy Y and the Truth X violates
the Theory X.
OR You say I you propose a better theory for such and such reasons(these reasons stems out from another validated Theory ...
(both the cases are thus equvalent)
And then we discuss and resolve.
You can not disagree to me simply because you choose to disagree without giving reasons from a Theory Y.
In short if you disagree we discuss and try to prove each other wrong.

Take the second case, you Agree... So we are together.

Take the Third Case ,you choose to delete my information(or source of information) or your self without any reasons
(and hence without any conclusive discussion)...You established a Autocratic Rule(You become like Chinese in and thus end up
creating a BiPolar World of a Different Kind with some new Enemy..)...Therefore Suicide and Murder are equivalent in the eyes of
true justice.Now choose yourself whether what you said was right or wrong.

You gave me a deadline ... for no logical reason.
What if I die before this 24 gets over then you guys will delete my information without giving me a chance.
Not only that it would have brought me a Bad name of not knowing what he speaks.,

You decide what to do next.

Here is my proof (pls cheer up as it will be the most exciting journey you will ever undertake in the History of Science)
1.The Universe is composed of Groups of Information.(Single Valued , Multi Value.. etc)
2.All the Groups Exist on Space Time (which is a line between Maths and Physics).Therefore all Groups attract.
3.No Absolute measurement is ever made.(It predicts that Space Itself always Travles at speed of Light but not the Measured
Photon.. it is obvious when we see that Vaccum is not a Vaccum at all)or alternatively assume that a Mesurement is always
always made.
Also In other words it means that There is No Begining or End of an Experiment.. (punch line ...There is no Memory... or all memeory.)
4.Let us assume that MultiDimensional Unique Quantum Garvitational States can be constructed.
5.Let all events be equally likely.

Thats all we need to assume


Next we know that Total Quantum Gravitation States Can be found.Assume it can be of only N State Based ..
and also of possibly all N Dimesnioal Based.Rearrangement of Dimesnions is allowed to achieve an Event.

We also know that there is limit on the rate of Information Capture(Due to Space Speed)
Let us call an Event a Event if it results in m consecutive States in M dimensional Space.
(N= m * M)
Choose m consecutive States -
The probability of this Happening is w to power m.

The total event space N where m and w are very small as compared to N

(An Equally Likely Event)
1.There is no memory
2.We Know that we can find Treasures of Groups because Explanation lies on itself on Space Time and Space Time is known to be Grvaitational. As there is no memory the Past , Present or Future is Proabilistic.

Thus Probility of finding such a Group increase with time

For reasons known to all We know the Probability distruibution as
(I cant write it becuase HTML takes it as a TAG but it has an complex exponential fucntion)

Where c is small constant .. t is time and M is best suited Dimensional configuration to acheive the EVENT.

Next

The Net Probability due to All Memory and No-Memory(With Forward Movement)

(I cant write it becuase HTML takes it as a TAG)


Cheers
I have proved it ...
Next I have predicted Anti Gravity and Decay of Space Time thus
We also have a similar result for differing only in constant.. in one and only one Universe.
(With BackWard Movement in Sapce Time)
P = P(M) X (I cant write it becuase HTML takes it as a TAG but it has an complex exponential fucntion)

Thus P = P(M) X PF(NM) X PB(NM)

You may not like me for this but it is the TRUTH.
Be Objective.

c and c1 are very small as compared to M but M is not infinite.

This work can give you Nobel Prize ... can anyone be so Kind.
May God Bless You.

Now Life and Death is your hands.
Take your Lagaan.
It even solves your problem with my use of word Anomaly in the deleted topic. The crime was limited to the wrond use of Words and thats all.

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#10812 - 10/20/05 04:55 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
Unregistered


"Play nice, stick to science and science related topics. Postings containing spam, obscenity, those that are abusive, threaten violence or are otherwise inappropriate will be removed at the forum management's discretion."

"...or are otherwise inappropriate..."

When I get complaints I investigate.

Sincerely,

"Amaranth"

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#10813 - 10/20/05 04:59 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
Unregistered


Investigate whatever you want to investigate...
But few actions are just not justified no matter how ideal is your intention.
Anyways one more intersting finding
The Real Part of the Probabilty gives the
Generic Modified Value as
P = k*(1 + exp(-C1XC2Xt divided by m))

Sincerely

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#10814 - 10/21/05 08:15 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
Unregistered


Dear all,
I hope you have understood what I have said.
Infact now the whole world knows that I created it.
Sometimes I feel is it just a coincidence that a believer of God came across such a theory?
There is more irony than that.
Some even oppose me madly(e.g Morgan) and will come up with anything to prove me wrong.
Anyways it was just a reminder to you all to send me your queries and I will answer.
Probably I will be on a leave due to some unavoidable reasons kindly collect all the queries and throw at me when I come back.
Wish you a Happy Diwali (without too much Noise)
Very soon Christmas is also going to come...
Let us see what gift we are going to get this time.How about a Moon ride? :-))

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#10815 - 10/25/05 03:19 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
Unregistered


We are a part of a Group nad we should not hesitate in asking Questions.
I will be wrong in some cases and you will in some.
But by doing this excersice we both learn.
And yes before we learn to should free our ego from any kind of Quasi-Intellectual State where some thinks he is better because he is older or better educated or looks more beautiful..
That we will hurt our objective to be the first on this planet to know the Truth.

Some have asked what is 0 and infinitiy.
Let us study the properties of Space Time Itself.
It is composed of Groups. And as there is not Absolute Measurement(Measurement without any error in principle) .We conlcude that :
There is no measured Final No-Group State.If a Measurement is Made It belongs a Group(composed of further Quantum Properties and/or Dimensions).

Next we take up the Numbers if you guys agree with me on this.

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#10816 - 10/25/05 12:27 PM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
Unregistered


Kate:
please take this one to the other forum.

Regards,

"Amaranth"

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#10817 - 10/25/05 12:30 PM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
Unregistered


Why ?
Make sure that you answer it properly if you can.

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#10818 - 11/07/05 05:33 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
Unregistered


Since I have survived till now.
Please ask me question and I will give you all your answers.
Even if there is slightest doubt mail me or call me or do anything which you want to do this thread now.

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#10819 - 11/09/05 12:21 AM Re: m-Theory
jjw Offline
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Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 636
Loc: USA
Hi dkv.

I have been reading your various postings and replies with interest. I admit your mind seems to work at a mathematical/physics/theoretical level that I do not adequately understand but I see a thread displayed that perks my interest.

Why not share a little of your interests. You seem to favor Einstein in all things. You appear to think imagination is supreme, even possibly to the exception of more solid experiments. Possibly if we/they knew a little more about your reference points there would be a better audience? Maybe not?
jjw

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#10820 - 11/09/05 07:08 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
Unregistered


This is my Theory...
No literature has any reference to it.
I am the creator...
Now thats not a joke.
Instead take me seriously to discuss it further.
I promise to solve all your problem if you tell me.

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#10821 - 11/21/05 06:21 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
Unregistered


Hm, you wonder whay you could be considered an idiot? Although I did not make such a statement, I will provide you with arguments in support of it.
REP:As I have accepted that you really understand my theory and I do not intend to make any comment on my idiocity.However a
a good discussion is never bad especially when we know that we are discovering a new Theoretical Paradigm of Universe Description.What I notice here is something amazing .. inspite of saying something very obvious a majority of the section remains closed to a new progressive suggestion.It is a same case in Business as well where an obvious fact goes unnoticed by the large section of employees and only few manage to make use of it.The growth of the company depends on such uncommon people ...
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Take the hypotheses of your theory. BTW,according to your statemets in that post, they are equally the proof and the fundamental assumptions of your theory! From the start this is a strong indication about the fact that you have no clue of what you are talking about.
REP: I not only have a clue but the complete theory.Infact I call it the Character of Universe which contains multiple theories defined by M & m combination.
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dkv:"1.The Universe is composed of Groups of Information.(Single Valued , Multi Value.. etc)"
While it sounds pompous, it doesn't say much. You offer no proof or at least example on which your assumption is based.
REP: It is a fundamental assumption based on common sense.The Coordinates in Time are the best example of it.Coordinates carry lots of Information.The structure of Information is of no consequence if it does not belong to a Group.
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You also offer no definition of what your elucubration means, what it does, etc. You are just stringing words regardless of their meaning.
REP: I thought it was very simple.Please note that I had said that Universe is composed of Information Groups but didnt say what it is .This was intentional because what is Universe depends on your configuration of M and m.It is as simple as that.
=================================================As the poet says: "It is easy to write verses/When you have nothing to say/Stringing empty words together/Riming only in the tail/"
dkv:"2.All the Groups Exist on Space Time (which is a line between Maths and Physics).Therefore all Groups attract."
This simply makes no sense.The Universe IS the the spacetime.
REP: Thats why I avoided the question of What it is? The most interesting aspect of the Space Time based understanding is that Forces come as an "Attractive" package as a consequence of Dimensional Configuration without any assumed Background..Charges cancel out.Singularity is still there.This is called Attractive explanation of Universe(to avoid the tabooed word of Gravity).With the new found Background the existing formation moves away.It is unlearned(so called Anti-Gravity I think it will be better to replace it wiht some other word). This is the nature of Universe.
================================================= This means,according to your above definition that spacetime is made of groups which are defined on spacetime, which is made of groups whih are defined defined on spacetime which is made of...etc. The conclusion would be that groups are defined on themselves, and what is more interesting, they also attract, whatever that means. Would you care to elucubrate, pardon me,elaborate on the details of your definition?
REP: It is an interesting observation but you should also notice that we do not use all the Information available to Describe Universe as given in the classical Physics.Here I say that all the information is used to create the Universe as it is.It is a simple idea but leads to some mind blowing debates.
=================================================As I said, the Easter Bunny in "Alice in Wonderland" makes more sense than you do.
REP: All I wish to say here is that I am not the Bunny nor we are in the Wonderland because the Laws are still there and it takes lot of effort to make something wierd happen.
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dkv:"3.No Absolute measurement is ever made.(It predicts that Space Itself always Travles at speed of Light but not the Measured Photon.. it is obvious when we see that Vaccum is not a Vaccum at all)or alternatively assume that a Mesurement is always always made.Also In other words it means that There is No Begining or End of an Experiment.. (punch line ...There is no Memory... or all memeory.)"
This does not make sense, once again.Space itself travels at the speed of light but not the photon?
Space itself travels in wha' at the speed of light? And the photon's speed is,in your acception, what?
REP: Space time is available independent of radiation speed.Whats the big deal about it.The more important fact here is that the Universe in Time has a dual reality ...it has all Memory and it has No-Memory at the same time.Lets leave the the velocity part for a more advanced stage discussion.
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As I said before, are you on any medication? 'cause it aint working!
REP: It is very much working sir.
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dkv:"4.Let us assume that MultiDimensional Unique Quantum Garvitational States can be constructed."
Well,then construct one!This I would like to see, really. I am all ears.
REP: Mutidimesional Reconfiguration is required to provide Evolutionary solutions.
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dkv:"5.Let all events be equally likely."
This is patently untrue. In atomic physics,for example,you have forbidden events(transitions) and allowed transitions. So of all the possibilities/possible events, some are more likely and some are not likely at all.
REP: Boss I am talking about events in Multi Dimensional World and by the defintion of Event it is made up of m consecutive occurence of Qunatum Gravitational States.Thus to make an event happen there are certain preferred dimensions.
If you can restate your event in terms of Quantum Gravitational States then at worst you will find that any event is in indeterminate State of limited by an incomplete theory.It is a Mathematical Statement.The more likly and less likely events are again not Qunatum Gravitational ... Two identical events in Time may not be the same in Quantum Gravitational Field as there is a good possibility of us living in a very elite world of Magic.Magic which created us.All the observations and laws are thus the result of our stable dimensional configuration.Thats important to understand as there is a long long way to go before we can call it the end of Physics.Are there any other stable configurations and what actually is meant by a stable explanation?It is question which every one should try to answer.
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And of those that are likely to happen, some are more likely than the others (in spectroscopy, this is a known and proven experimental fact).
So exactly how would you characterize someone who talks non-sense, believes he is a genius,tries to convince the others that he is a genius by talking even more nonsense, and does not even want to perceive how ridiculous he is?
REP: Thats not fair. If I say something it means a lot.
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#10822 - 11/21/05 11:18 AM Re: m-Theory
Pasti Offline
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Registered: 10/16/04
Posts: 201
dkv:"However a good discussion is never bad especially when we know that we are discovering a new Theoretical Paradigm of Universe Description."

A good discussion yes, but this is not your case. And for the time being you don't seem to have discovered anything, from what you write. You only say and think that you did. Biiiig difference!

dkv:"I notice here is something amazing .. inspite of saying something very obvious a majority of the section remains closed to a new progressive suggestion."

You simply don't want to understand. There is no progressive suggestion, a treatment of the universe based on information theory is already neeing investigated by others. You would know this if you read more...

dkv:"I not only have a clue but the complete theory.Infact I call it the Character of Universe which contains multiple theories defined by M & m combination."

Boy, you are thick. Call it what you like, but unless you explain what you are talking about, and you subject it to public critique, it is not worth much.

dkv:"It is a fundamental assumption based on common sense.The Coordinates in Time are the best example of it.Coordinates carry lots of Information.The structure of Information is of no consequence if it does not belong to a Group."

Once again, unless you explain this baloney, it isn't worth a dime.

dkv:"I thought it was very simple.Please note that I had said that Universe is composed of Information Groups but didnt say what it is .This was intentional because what is Universe depends on your configuration of M and m.It is as simple as that."

I am glad the universe depends on M&M, but you have a talent of talking a lot and saying less than nothing. Read a paper from arxiv.org to see what means to explain something.

dkv:" Thats why I avoided the question of What it is? ......

Good one!

dkv:"It is an interesting observation but you should also notice that we do not use all the Information available to Describe Universe as given in the classical Physics."

Duh! That is why it is called classical physics.

Here I say that all the information is used to create the Universe as it is.It is a simple idea but leads to some mind blowing debates.

This might make sense, but you have to show how this happens. At the very least for a simple example, say a black-hole, or a particle, or something similar. Otherwise, once again, it' just empty talk...

dkv:"...because the Laws are still there and it takes lot of effort to make something wierd happen."

Huh?

dkv:"Space time is available independent of radiation speed.Whats the big deal about it."

Welcome to Einstein's GR. But that is not waht you were saying before. As I said, don't change the context and claim innocence and righteousness.

dkv:"The more important fact here is that the Universe in Time has a dual reality ...it has all Memory and it has No-Memory at the same time.Lets leave the the velocity part for a more advanced stage discussion."

No dkv, the Universe contains time. What you are talking about is a constant time foliation. And if you do so, you need to specify the time evolution....As for your duality, you must be infinitely more specific. Otherwise, again they are just empty words. Memory, shmemory, doesn't matter as you say it. Be more exact, more focused on what is the ideea that you want to illustrate.

dkv:"It is very much working sir."

Go for a second oppinion...


dkv:"Mutidimesional Reconfiguration is required to provide Evolutionary solutions."

More crapoly. And I just had a subspace conversation with Picard, who told me that the Borg have just published an article where they prove that in order to have evolutionary solutions you need in fact to compactify the subspace dimensions to crapon sizes.

dkv:"Boss I am talking about events in Multi Dimensional World and by the defintion of Event it is made up of m consecutive occurence of Qunatum Gravitational States.Thus to make an event happen there are certain preferred dimensions."

You surely must have an example illustrating what you say. As I said, I am all years.

dkv:"If you can restate your event in terms of Quantum Gravitational States then at worst you will find that any event is in indeterminate State of limited by an incomplete theory.It is a Mathematical Statement."

So you don't know what mathematics is. What's new with that?

dkv:"The more likly and less likely events are again not Qunatum Gravitational ... Two identical events in Time may not be the same in Quantum Gravitational Field as there is a good possibility of us living in a very elite world of Magic."

You do live there for certain. I can only hope it has a reinforced boundary...

dkv:"Magic which created us."

Oh boy!Then what is the magic trick to make you think?

dkv:"All the observations and laws are thus the result of our stable dimensional configuration.Thats important to understand as there is a long long way to go before we can call it the end of Physics.Are there any other stable configurations and what actually is meant by a stable explanation?It is question which every one should try to answer."

In you magic world, you are probably right. And the only one.

dkv:"Thats not fair. If I say something it means a lot."

If you say so...But you are the only one believing it. This should give you a clue...

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#10823 - 11/21/05 12:45 PM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
Unregistered


dkv:"However a good discussion is never bad especially when we know that we are discovering a new Theoretical Paradigm of Universe Description."
A good discussion yes, but this is not your case.
REP: Why ?
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And for the time being you don't seem to have discovered anything, from what you write. You only say and think that you did. Biiiig difference!
REP: Its up to you to believe me or not.
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dkv:"I notice here is something amazing .. inspite of saying something very obvious a majority of the section remains closed to a new progressive suggestion."
You simply don't want to understand. There is no progressive suggestion, a treatment of the universe based on information theory is already neeing investigated by others. You would know this if you read more...
REP: Show me the theory which describes the Universe as I have described(or with my assumptions) and trust me I will never post anything.
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dkv:"I not only have a clue but the complete theory.Infact I call it the Character of Universe which contains multiple theories defined by M & m combination."
Boy, you are thick. Call it what you like, but unless you explain what you are talking about, and you subject it to public critique, it is not worth much.
REP: What do I need to explain. Multiple Theories means multiple configurations of Universe.Some Laws are embeded in the Universe depending upon the defintion of observer Space which I call I-Space.Observations take place in a Multi State and Multi Dimensional World(which I call c-Space).There is nothing special about Humans other than the kind of Information we are looking for.And not every human is capable of digesting every Info he or she comes across.The discrimination of Nature is not false and it is real and required.We have already discussed it in the defintion of Truth.And How we evolve is different question.
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dkv:"It is a fundamental assumption based on common sense.The Coordinates in Time are the best example of it.Coordinates carry lots of Information.The structure of Information is of no consequence if it does not belong to a Group."
Once again, unless you explain this baloney, it isn't worth a dime.
REP: Ok.Everything which is worth a dime belongs to a Group.It has all the elements in it which allows it to co-exist with others.It contains all the Laws required to make it functional.Maths is an example of a Group.
No matter what you write Mathematically it must adhere to the defintion of itself.
Similarly Business House is a Group .... Family is a Group ... This forum belongs to a Group ... Binary Logic Belongs to a Group ...Fuzzy Logic also belongs to a Group.Quantum World belongs to a Group. Every Group has multiple Dimensions in it.In short it has all the orthogonal dimensions in it to make it explainable to all its constiuents.And then it has States which result in Manifestation of events within that Group.
An excercise on Group Intelligence was my choice to show it works.But we are not taking it seriously when actually it has wonderful ability to provide us a simple and running example of how things happen in a group.I have already used it to argue in favour of non-linearity evolution..we are talking about pure convergence here and if we disucss it positively then we will find the treasure much before the world finds it..
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dkv:"I thought it was very simple.Please note that I had said that Universe is composed of Information Groups but didnt say what it is .This was intentional because what is Universe depends on your configuration of M and m.It is as simple as that."
I am glad the universe depends on M&M, but you have a talent of talking a lot and saying less than nothing.
REP: Thats not true. I say everything and to put it poetically Universe came out of Nothing.
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Read a paper from arxiv.org to see what means to explain something.
REP:I am giving radically different prespective which is mid way between Einstein and Feynman, Religion and Science , Maths and Arts.
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dkv:" Thats why I avoided the question of What it is? ......
Good one!
dkv:"It is an interesting observation but you should also notice that we do not use all the Information available to Describe Universe as given in the classical Physics."
Duh! That is why it is called classical physics.
REP: I guess you agree sincerely.
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Here I say that all the information is used to create the Universe as it is.It is a simple idea but leads to some mind blowing debates.
This might make sense, but you have to show how this happens. At the very least for a simple example, say a black-hole, or a particle, or something similar. Otherwise, once again, it' just empty talk...
REP: How this happens is the stuff which you will see in Future.Take a Hologram ...
It projects Absolute Information with a Relative view.The information remains same but it changes based upon the location of the viewer.The changes are Real as it leads to real events..
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dkv:"...because the Laws are still there and it takes lot of effort to make something wierd happen."
Huh?
REP: yes it takes a lot.But the lot is always finite if effort is implemented with proper strategy.
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dkv:"Space time is available independent of radiation speed.Whats the big deal about it."
Welcome to Einstein's GR. But that is not waht you were saying before. As I said, don't change the context and claim innocence and righteousness.
REP: :-)) I never said I am innocent infact I am the most clever person on this earth .. little bit of boasting there but you know the fact.
What I say is something little more mysterious.
No Memory and All Memory aspect of Universe.
Come on .. dont tell me that you didnt realize the consequence of it.
Due to no-memory component it is possible for the Universe to break that speed barrier randomly without violating Mr. Einstein.
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dkv:"The more important fact here is that the Universe in Time has a dual reality ...it has all Memory and it has No-Memory at the same time.Lets leave the the velocity part for a more advanced stage discussion."
No dkv, the Universe contains time.
REP: Universe contains time ? ok then lets say that Universe contains it.But how does it matter if what I describe here is a Universe with no begining and No end.This is the fundamental assumption.What gets manifested as Origin of Universe is actually the Transformation of Universe from M1,m1 to M2,m2
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What you are talking about is a constant time foliation. And if you do so, you need to specify the time evolution....
REP: Time doesnt evolve it remains same.Constant.It is a Universal Constant.In other words there is always a possibility of defining time at any and every level.
What evolves is Dimensions other than Time.
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As for your duality, you must be infinitely more specific.
REP: I personally do not believe in infinite as an explanation.:-)) There are times when things
based on neatly seperated cause and effect.There are times when things happen spontaneously.
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Otherwise, again they are just empty words. Memory, shmemory, doesn't matter as you say it. Be more exact, more focused on what is the ideea that you want to illustrate.
dkv:"It is very much working sir."
Go for a second oppinion...
REP: Now what do you say?
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dkv:"Mutidimesional Reconfiguration is required to provide Evolutionary solutions."
More crapoly. And I just had a subspace conversation with Picard, who told me that the Borg have just published an article where they prove that in order to have evolutionary solutions you need in fact to compactify the subspace dimensions to crapon sizes.
REP: As we look from here .. indeed the dimensions are very small ...
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dkv:"Boss I am talking about events in Multi Dimensional World and by the defintion of Event it is made up of m consecutive occurence of Qunatum Gravitational States.Thus to make an event happen there are certain preferred dimensions."
You surely must have an example illustrating what you say. As I said, I am all years.
REP: Ok assume that we know all the laws for the Space-Time.Next we know that the Universe can not remain the same if the number of dicreet Spacetime increases or decrease.If gets subjected to Binomial Distribution .. the Probability takes the Quantum Shape.It is never zero.
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dkv:"If you can restate your event in terms of Quantum Gravitational States then at worst you will find that any event is in indeterminate State of limited by an incomplete theory.It is a Mathematical Statement."
So you don't know what mathematics is. What's new with that?
REP: I know more than Mathematics. And Life has taught me that.Btw I am not that bad either.
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dkv:"The more likly and less likely events are again not Qunatum Gravitational ... Two identical events in Time may not be the same in Quantum Gravitational Field as there is a good possibility of us living in a very elite world of Magic."
You do live there for certain. I can only hope it has a reinforced boundary...
REP: Lets see.
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dkv:"Magic which created us."
Oh boy!Then what is the magic trick to make you think?
REP:Magic is the word which people look forward to.. and someone once had asked for it in this forum.
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dkv:"All the observations and laws are thus the result of our stable dimensional configuration.Thats important to understand as there is a long long way to go before we can call it the end of Physics.Are there any other stable configurations and what actually is meant by a stable explanation?It is question which every one should try to answer."
In you magic world, you are probably right. And the only one.
REP: No .. there are billions who follow this unknowingly.Yes I am the first person to discuss it in a logical framework.
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dkv:"Thats not fair. If I say something it means a lot."
If you say so...But you are the only one believing it. This should give you a clue...
REP: Those who do not believe in it should discuss with me.

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#10824 - 11/21/05 04:03 PM Re: m-Theory
Pasti Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 10/16/04
Posts: 201
dkv,you are simply wasting my time. I bid you good luck in your magic world.

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#10825 - 11/22/05 04:44 PM Re: m-Theory
DA Morgan Offline
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dkv:

After reviewing your what you wrote my conclusion, like Pasti's, is that it is long on bytes and short on content.

Comments such as: "Those who do not believe in it should discuss with me" and "Magic is the word which people look forward to.. and someone once had asked for it in this forum." Falsely assume you are rational.
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#10826 - 11/23/05 06:26 AM Re: m-Theory
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I am sorry ...i didnt hear your argument against the theory.
Things dont happen this way Morgan...
You need come with a solid reasoning to refute the theory.
Any other comment is not needed.
To put it again "The theory explains everthing"
"It gives the absolute picture." and "has the full ability to explain the Universe."
It gives an all exclusive reality and all inclusive reality a mathematical meaning.
~~For those who had problem : All Exclusive - No Memory . All Inclusive - Complete memory~~
The beauty and power of the theroy is such that it gives everything a Hope.
However it still doesnt say how? That discussion will involve higher level of understanding between us.. and that begins with your acknowledgement of basic assumptions as true.
I hope you understand he meaning of Dimension and States.
Dimensions are the Saptially spread orgothogonal Unit Information... Infact any time spread of information is esspetially a Spatial Representation.Thus again and again we end with a Spatial View if we try to View Time as Dimension.This happens because of the finite speed of light and the essential contiuous movement of time as a collection of events(resulting in decay or growth). I throw bricks at me for making such a statement but think about it deeply.
Next the States.
State is the Net Qunatum Presentation of some aspect of the Object as a Whole.It is the place where further measureable divisions stop..The interaction between the two worlds no yield further Division.Anything less and it just doesnt exist ..However just as fractional Charges are present collectivly inside Protons and Neutrons ... other aspects of Truths lay buried in other dimensions.
Hope this clears some of your cloud.

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#10827 - 11/23/05 01:11 PM Re: m-Theory
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"Ganz nicht falsch."

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#10828 - 11/29/05 06:02 AM Re: m-Theory
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Maybe you are a maths genius, but you sure as hell need an english lesson or two.

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#10829 - 11/29/05 06:38 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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yes that is true.
Or may be we need to understand something else.
common to all.
This thread is meant for geniuses and I am glad to find you one.

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#10830 - 11/30/05 06:20 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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How presumptious and insulting can you get?

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#10831 - 11/30/05 07:00 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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ok my god.As you wish ... as you take it.
I have great respect for you and everyone.
The point is if nobody takes you seriously then what do you expect anyone to do?

If I call myself a genius then in my opinion you are a greater one based on your essential role in the events..I delivered what you had asked for.
It does not mean in anyway that I would have delivered even without you.

This is the reason why we are feeling this way.
We are seprating the cause and effect as victory and defeat when there is none. We have all discovered a truth which can remain a solid background for all our discussions in future.

I have been simply telling the truth.

Few more words on the theory:
It contains far more insights than we have discovered together.Every new idea from it is like a child coming into this world... with lots of pain and joy.
On Personal remarks:
On personal level I find lots of people around agreeing with me throughly.This provides them enough peace and hope to believe that yes they were always always so much right.The world was meant to be understood by everyone.I am sure they do not mind my occasional deviations from theory to myself.

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#10832 - 11/30/05 06:23 PM Re: m-Theory
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dkv:"I have great respect for you and everyone."

Actually you don't. This makes you also a liar.

dkv:"The point is if nobody takes you seriously then what do you expect anyone to do?"

Let me give you a piece of eastern and western wisdom: when several people tell you that you're drunk, you'd better go to sleep. Am I geting through to you?

"I delivered what you had asked for."

No one asked you to deliver any such thing. What you were asked to do was to learn more and talk less, and you certainly didn't deliver on that.

dkv: "We have all discovered a truth which can remain a solid background for all our discussions in future."

"We" haven't discovered anything. And you haven't either. So at least have the decency not to drag all the others through your misery and delusions.

dkv:"I have been simply telling the truth."

and I know at least four cases of Napoleons, two Wellingtons, and one martian that could also swear they are telling the truth about who or what they are. So your point is?

dkv: "On personal level I find lots of people around agreeing with me throughly."

Really? I challenge you to name them and provide the postings where they have "throughly" agreed with you.

dkv:"This provides them enough peace and hope to believe that yes they were always always so much right."

Boy, you really are sick.

dkv:"The world was meant to be understood by everyone."

And somehow, you are not among those who understand it.

kv:"I am sure they do not mind my occasional deviations from theory to myself."

Occasional? There is basically no post that you have writen where you haven't kissed yourself in the mirror! You are really delusional, and I mean this in the medical sense. Get some help, from qualified professionals.

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#10833 - 11/30/05 10:39 PM Re: m-Theory
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Rose asks:
"How presumptious and insulting can you get?"

Apparently quite a bit

dvk then writes:
"I have great respect for you and everyone."

To paraphrase Pasti ... dkv: you are both a liar and a hypocrite.
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#10834 - 01/14/06 05:03 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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So the liar says that the Universe has an intrinsic Spin just like electrons ...
Can you believe it?
I know all this without reading a book and taking drugs.
And I can prove if you really wish to discuss it.

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#10835 - 01/14/06 06:53 AM Re: m-Theory
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Believe the universe has spin or believe that you know anything about the subject or believe that you can even define the term in terms of this thread.
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#10836 - 01/16/06 04:46 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Believe me for your own benefit.

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#10837 - 01/16/06 08:00 AM Re: m-Theory
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I think that kind of response should be reserved for the Origins board, dkv.

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#10838 - 01/17/06 02:26 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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I thought this thread was about m-theory. Can we bring it back to the initial focus, please?

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#10839 - 01/23/06 01:08 AM Re: m-Theory
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Dkv from an earlier post of yours:

?This is my Theory...
No literature has any reference to it.
I am the creator...
Now that?s not a joke.
Instead take me seriously to discuss it further.
I promise to solve all your problem if you tell me.?

On another listing there have been debates about the formula the E=mc^2.

I do not challenge the formula but I do wonder at the application. The formula requires that for it to be consistent the speed of light must be the same always or the Energy to be produced would vary, just as a change in the Mass would produce different results.

My interest has been concerned with the prospect that it has been established with some certainty that light speed will vary when the light encounters certain mediums. If the speed of light, other than in a vacuum, can effect the result of the energy produced by application of the formula how can the outcome of the application of the formula be predictable and reliable?

If you can respond with some mathematically reasoned result that will be very interesting but please avoid an esoteric type answer or I will not understand it.
Thanks,
jjw

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#10840 - 01/24/06 05:49 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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My interest has been concerned with the prospect that it has been established with some certainty that light speed will vary when the light encounters certain mediums. If the speed of light, other than in a vacuum, can effect the result of the energy produced by application of the formula how can the outcome of the application of the formula be predictable and reliable?
REP: Speed of Light as they say in classical GR remains the same.Certain mediums change it due to interaction with photons(changing the state of atoms). But the underlying fact remains same with respect to light.

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#10841 - 01/28/06 04:30 AM Re: m-Theory
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I do not challenge the formula but I do wonder at the application. The formula requires that for it to be consistent the speed of light must be the same always or the Energy to be produced would vary, just as a change in the Mass would produce different results.
REP: To bring alive this discussion I guess you want one more answer. Simple answers are already given in the book. I share my theory not be called a thief. And an ungratefull nation doesnt hesitate in proving it.

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#10842 - 01/28/06 05:23 AM Re: m-Theory
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DKV:

I do not have any idea what you are saying.
I suggest you ignore my question as too speculative and that will suffice.
jjw

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#10843 - 01/29/06 07:03 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Quote:
Originally posted by dkv:
Ok so again it got deleted.

Hope it makes some sense.
It didn't.

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#10844 - 01/29/06 08:06 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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May I know why?
Give me a glimpse of some logical reasoning.

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#10845 - 01/29/06 11:51 PM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Quote:
Originally posted by dkv:
May I know why?
Give me a glimpse of some logical reasoning.
You were totally off topic and off the wall. That's two strikes right there.

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#10846 - 01/30/06 07:49 PM Re: m-Theory
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dvk wrote:
"The target was to show the Universe holds the intrinsic Spin. Which is part of m-theory which says any dimension of thought can be translated into a State. And it necessarily includes Spin of the Universe itself."

No it isn't. There isn't anything in m-theory, quantum membranes, that has anything to do with "dimension of thought."

Rose ... use a machete.
dvk .... you were compeltely off-topic and if you can not see that then please add 2+2 and come up with seeking professional help.
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#10847 - 01/31/06 09:51 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Quote:
Originally posted by dkv:
Stupid Morgan... Membranes are undetectable.
It gets worse from here.

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#10848 - 02/01/06 05:00 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Yes indeed it gets worse than ever.
Give a thought to joining a class on Logic and Deductive Analysis.

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#10849 - 02/01/06 05:50 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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After you, my dear Alphonse!

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#10850 - 02/03/06 11:10 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Quote:
Originally posted by dkv:
Lets talk logic :
Binary Logic is well understood ...
What about Fuzzy Logic?
...[content deleted]
But in the end it is the Self or Your Self which gives you the final answer.
Circular logic is not logic. This is a Science forum, not the local psychiatric ward.

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#10851 - 02/04/06 04:21 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Circular Logic ????
Japan has implemented it in so many devices..
Fuzzy Logic is being used in Vioce recognition and Face recognition...
Fuzzy Logic is used to predict Market Behaviour.
If sufficiently complex it can predict political outcomes with little code.
You are deleting my message based on some strange criteria.
Wouldnt it nice if you could just say the same without deleting my messages.

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#10852 - 02/04/06 09:42 AM Re: m-Theory
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dkv:

*Sigh* Once again, totally off the topic. How many times do I have to tell you this? I'm the moderator. I'm not paid to be nice. I'm paid to keep the forum topics on topic, and you are not even anywhere near on topic. The only criterion I am using is that your ramblings and ruminations are not appropriate for a Science forun.n

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#10853 - 02/07/06 09:41 PM Re: m-Theory
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The spin of a psychotic mind can not be understood with or without faith.

You are off-topic and incoherent. What you have written is nonsenical.

Please seek professional medical help.

You have nothing to fear in reaching out to a competent psychiatrist?
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#10854 - 02/08/06 12:46 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Quote:
Originally posted by dkv:
Spin of Universe can not be understood without understanding nature of truth.
Keep your faith.
....
It includes War and Meaningless Violence.One and all become guilty for their repective failures.
Once again, no relevance to the topic, and laden with anthropomorphizing and irrelevant goo.

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#10855 - 02/17/06 05:13 AM Re: m-Theory
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Rose, Kate, Rusty, might I suggest that you have something like a 30 strikes and you're out rule?

How much longer must we suffer through dvk's refusal to either see a psychiatrist or post content that has at least the socially redeeming value of a dead skunk in the middle of the road.
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#10856 - 02/17/06 08:56 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Have patience, Dan, I'm deleting as fast as I can.

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#10857 - 02/17/06 09:13 PM Re: m-Theory
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I was referring to deleting the poster ... not just the posts. I know this is likely becoming onerous.

My recommendation is rather that you refuse to let people post who have a proven track record of being no smarter than a tomato.
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#10858 - 02/18/06 12:49 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Actually, tomatoes are really rather clever plants...

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#10859 - 02/18/06 01:21 PM Re: m-Theory
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Amaranth,

I have not see DKV contribute anything coherent in a good while now. I think his postings have degenerated - they have always been on the wilder side of sensible, but not to the degree that they are now. I can make absolutely no sense of them.

You would save yourself much work by accepting that DKV has lost touch with reality and simply prevent him from posting here until he can post you an email that indicates he knows a 'hawk from a handsaw'.

Regards,

Blacknad.

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#10860 - 02/18/06 01:26 PM Re: m-Theory
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This is the closest he came in recent times to making sense:

"From the science prespective I rather like to give credit to the Supreme Consciousness.
Supreme Consciousness remains a possible explanation .. It can not be negated. And all the doubts are limited to the extent of Not finding "Strong" Evidence."

As you can see, it wasn't close enough.

Blacknad.

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#10861 - 02/19/06 03:15 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Blacknad,
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I am also observing that dkv hasn't posted anything for a while and for that I am grateful. Perhaps he has come to enough sense to self-moderate his effluvium. One can but hope. If he comes back I'll deal with him at that time.

Thanks for the vote of confidence,

Amaranth

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#10862 - 03/01/06 11:13 PM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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You are little Biased Rose otherwise you wouldnt have put such a comment ,,
I am posting article at www.scienceforums.net

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#10863 - 03/02/06 12:19 AM Re: m-Theory
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Glad to hear it. Don't let us distract you in any way.
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#10864 - 03/02/06 03:33 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Trust me even there I have found no one capable.

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#10865 - 03/02/06 04:41 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Quote:
Originally posted by dkv:
You are little Biased Rose otherwise you wouldnt have put such a comment ,,
I am posting article at www.scienceforums.net
I may well be biased but at least I'm relatively sane and coherent. Glad you found some other place for your postings. Hope you stay there a long time.

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#10866 - 03/02/06 04:43 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Quote:
Originally posted by dkv:
Trust me even there I have found no one capable.
Capable of what? Interpreting your philosophical wanderings? I don't think the translator has been made for that kind of leap of logic and language.

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#10867 - 03/02/06 09:15 PM Re: m-Theory
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Capable of substituting for the psychiatric intervention he so desperately requires.
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#10868 - 03/21/06 02:14 PM Re: m-Theory
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I think that's really great of you to donate to mental asylums, dkv.
There are fresh approaches out there. Really, just respect for human dignity is what mentally ill people need most. That and someone who can just repeatedly remind them of appropriate boundaries. And medication is a great tool, of course.
It's a difficult cross to bear having a serious mental illness. I've got one so I know.
I've experienced 5 psychotic episodes so far in my lifetime and they are real adventures.
I hope I don't have another one...I just keep taking my meds every day and thank Grace for them (and science, too)
People in the past who had manic episodes that lead to psychosis could stay in that state for six months and eventually die of exhaustion....and I know that's exactly what would happen to me. I can't come down or out of it on my own.
You're not psychotic DKV...I would recognize one of my own smile
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#10869 - 03/22/06 12:54 PM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Good to see you back in the forum.
There was no other way..it had to be this way only.The Complete knowledge some say is process in space and time ... and it offers a lot to its researchers..It offers answers to
"Evolution : What Next?"
I wish to donate because it resonates with my Evolution theory where I had stated that to look for next step we should look for unique ideas from the places which actually misfit the generally accepted framework.
I wonder how many agree or disagree with me without deleting the post but frankly I feel this is how the network works.

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#10870 - 03/22/06 12:58 PM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Posted in a hurry but was honest in its originality.

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#10871 - 03/22/06 05:48 PM Re: m-Theory
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Well, I wouldn't necessarily look in asylums for answers to the Universe. Not that you wouldn't get a host of imaginative answers. There are no mystical answers found in psychosis, just the hell of confusion.

What I did find was a deep appreciation for sanity and our shared reality.
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#10872 - 03/24/06 06:40 AM Re: m-Theory
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WHAT AM I MISSING HERE?

When I first found this Forum I was impressed with view points that had substance in them. Now I see one member constantly advising the moderator to delete the ideas of a few while the special member has a real fun time making fun of one and all. Some people here appear to be sincere. Some may not be to easily understand but that may be more a lacking of ours than of theirs. Some members are now more interested in taking pot shots at other members rather than engaging in intelligent discussion. I do wish to tell any moderator how to function, but from my viewpoint it would be most expedient and productive to delete ANY post or reply that was obviously nothing more than a coarse degrading viewpoint, an insulting vibe or an unresponsive and unrelated reference to politics, a particular politician or a particular political party.

What?s left after that may qualify as a Forum focused on scientific concepts and not left over childhood fixations? I have enjoyed this Forum to the extent it was possible to offer a viewpoint or discuss a topic with out personalities seeking confrontation. I will check in now and then to make as much trouble as my limited time permits. Keep the egotists coming? I may not know WHO owns this Site.
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#10873 - 03/24/06 07:26 AM Re: m-Theory
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There is no politics in Science and knowledge is sincere.

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#10874 - 03/24/06 08:54 AM Re: m-Theory
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jjw wrote:
"When I first found this Forum I was impressed with view points that had substance in them. Now I see one member constantly advising the moderator to delete the ideas of a few ...."

dvk responded:
"There is no politics in Science and knowledge is sincere."

Which pretty much encapsulates the reason.
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#10875 - 03/24/06 09:13 AM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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You know it all depends on the level of thinking you have reached over the years.
In life you find all and therefore I am not surprised to see such interpretations.
Positive Energy is getting buried as an option.

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#10876 - 03/24/06 09:17 AM Re: m-Theory
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JJW, we certainly don't condone rude or ill-mannered behavior. Please let me know (via the private message thing) if you notice any.

We also don't delete posts based on what a "special member" might consider "inappropriate". If this is happening let me know and I'll deal with it.

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#10877 - 03/24/06 03:56 PM Re: m-Theory
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We do have some communication issues on this forum.
Some people are very focused on words and using their words exactly the way they are defined.
And then there's others of us who are sensitive to delivery and have to make a real effort to not take things personally in order to focus on the topics.
And then we have those of us that like to use esoteric jargon which completely baffles people who are trying to remain in the confines of exact language usage.
Kind of soupy, really.
I hope you still do contribute when you can, JJW. I like your perspectives. You're intelligent and curious and humble, too. Lots of great qualities smile You would be missed if you didn't post anymore.
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#10878 - 03/25/06 09:13 AM Re: m-Theory
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There are ways to reach to a good conclusion and I see lot of scope in this forum. Whatever I said was left out with little logical reasoning..
I know the theory was left without mathematical details.. but frankly if you have reached to this level anyone of us can create those equations. I surely not intend to take all the credit because I spoke what we were collectively trying to achieve.. it happens and it had happened in the past as well..
take for example Newton's Calculus or Lorentz Transformation; both of were just about to happen when someone took credit and fame.
In the field of Knowledge and Consciousness in my opinion we are just floating on the same boat..we try to give words.. who succeeds is important but trivial... we know why individually and collectively also the equation remains the same. This is the reason I wish to bring the larger picture in to notice which is beautiful and very intelligent to satisfy our desires...undoubtedly I find it beyond the means of senses but bring substantial gain in the understanding without stating much..
Why this happens we all know.. In any experiment no data or picture remains absolutely identical to its past history.. but the good news is it can be fractally same. This is what I had intended to know from the experiment of Ball Impact...
Lets hold on to our faith in Science and remain open to new ideas even if they question some old philosophy ... western or eastern.

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#10879 - 06/15/06 01:31 PM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Well I do not think I was correct and I withdraw the theory from the forum..
Lets face it...

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#10880 - 06/15/06 09:21 PM Re: m-Theory
Anonymous
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Quote:
Originally posted by dkv:
Well I do not think I was correct and I withdraw the theory from the forum..
Lets face it...
Glad you could stop by. Too bad you don't have anything of substance to add to the conversation. Please stick to Science and Science related subjects.

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