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Originally Posted By: TheFallibleFiend
Some people say Einstein was a fake and that he didn't really author his ideas; other people say that Uri Geller is a fake psychic. Are those two claims equivalent?


They're equivalent in that those claims can both be made publicly in any western country without the people making them being imprisoned for it. They're also equivalent in that they won't be censored by Google or Youtube.

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They're also equivalent in that they both appear in the same sentence authored by the same individual and that they are both statements about human beings. They're also equivalent in that both individuals were of Jewish heritage. They both have the letters R, L and E in their names. They both speak (or spoke) English. I feel I have seen pictures where they are each wearing pants.

Are the claims about Einstein and Geller equivalent in the evidence that supports them?

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Originally Posted By: TheFallibleFiend

Are the claims about Einstein and Geller equivalent in the evidence that supports them?


I don't know because I've never investigated either of them. The point I was trying to make in my recent post was that we have one special issue that people aren't free to openly debate. I think it's great that people question Einstein's authenticity, and Geller's. Doesn't mean either is right or wrong, but it gives us the chance to build more informed opinions. Or, if we choose, to accept only one side of the story, which is also fine. Not everybody has to be right about everything.

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Here's a funny made-up new article I found. Although it's fiction, it highlights the distorted prejudices many people have.


This morning, the internet search service Google has discontinued its service in Germany and forwards queries on the German Google address into neighboring Holland. This was due to a longstanding dispute with the German authorities to restrict certain search results that violate German laws. In addition to content that, according to the Berlin rulers, is harmful to the youth, the German internet censorship – the “Digital Berlin Wall” – is mainly targeting political content. Thus, the theories of right-wing dissidents and so-called Holocaust deniers in Germany will be prosecuted by law. So far, the search engine giant Google cooperated with the German authorities and excluded German internet users from search results that point to relevant pages. In the neighboring Netherlands, political censorship of such kind does not exist. It remains to be seen how German authorities will react on Google’s declaration of war. Insiders assume that Berlin will put Google on the list of obscene materials harmful to minors, which would exclude the Mountain View software giant from the lucrative German market. With this U-turn, Google wants to return to its former company motto “don’t be evil” and reject all the censorship efforts of national governments.

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Originally Posted By: redewenur
To deign to point to the particular - e.g. the reflectors - as evidence, is a waste of time.

Originally Posted By: TheFallibleFiend
And regarding the mirror panel left behind on the moon - it's irrelevant for the moon-hoaxers. I recently heard someone say that you can't reason a person out of an opinion they didn't use reason to get into in the first place.

Both redewenur and TheFallibleFiend want you to believe that;

NASA reflector panel on Moon PROVES Americans astronauts landed on the Moon.

But I happen to know that, during the Luna 17 and Luna 21 missions, French-built reflector arrays were placed on the Moon.

Thus, redewenur and TheFallibleFiend will have you believe that;

French-built reflector panel on Moon PROVES French astronauts landed on Moon,... or,...

Reflector panel placed on Moon by Soviets PROVES Russian astronauts landed on the Moon.


Do you think that these two are really so silly?

No. It is more likely they are propagandists.

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The opening of the Indian Ocean.



A cool animation, eh?

From: http://preearth.net/

And see if there are any topics of interest to you on my little forum:

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Originally Posted By: preearth

But I happen to know that, during the Luna 17 and Luna 21 missions, French-built reflector arrays were placed on the Moon.


Yep, we all know that now. A story was posted about it on this very site recently.

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Originally Posted By: TheFallibleFiend
Some people say Einstein was a fake and that he didn't really author his ideas;

Is that right? Tell me more.


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Originally Posted By: TheFallibleFiend
Some people say Einstein was a fake and that he didn't really author his ideas;


No seriously,... when I studied special relativity I noticed that many people had published relativity type stuff before Einstein,... so I am interested in seeing what others say.


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Originally Posted By: TheFallibleFiend
Some people say Einstein was a fake and that he didn't really author his ideas;


Is TheFallibleFiend on holiday.

I have found a couple of sites about Einstein being a fake on the internet, but nothing really compelling.


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Originally Posted By: preearth

I have found a couple of sites about Einstein being a fake on the internet, but nothing really compelling.

Kinda the point.

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"I have found a couple of sites about Einstein being a fake on the internet, but nothing really compelling."
Bingo.

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"The moderators were quite hostile with me."
Shocking!

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Originally Posted By: FatFreddy
I stopped posting on that thread because the moderator started deleting my posts because I was winning the debate.

I have a forum at;

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/search.php?search_id=newposts

I try not to censor,... but, no ads, no porn, no rubbish.


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Well, the fact that man have been to the moon is true. But maybe the filmatisaision of the event is FALSE! Isn`t that i likely senario?


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Really, magiimice, you can't let something as logical as that spoil the fun of a good conspiracy theory. :P


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I suspect that 'filmatisaision' of anything would be likely to inject a little conjecture into most subjects!

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This thread seems to have settled out at 11 pages. I guess that means that a lot of people have opinions about the validity, or otherwise of the moon landings. I wonder how many have access to the Russians' monitoring of the American landing. smile


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Originally Posted By: magiimice
"e=mc2" Albert Einstein

magiimice:

"e=mc2" Albert Einstein, Hasenöhrl, Poincaré, Planck and Olinto De Pretto.

Olinto De Pretto published e=mc2 a few years before Einstein.

Apparently, Einstein knew about this, but never credited De Pretto.

He didn't credit Hasenöhrl, Poincaré or Planck for their contributions either.

http://www.scienceagogo.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=36687


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Quote:
Olinto De Pretto published e=mc2 a few years before Einstein.


Which has what to do with the veracity, or otherwise, of the moon landings?

Going back to my previous post, though, does anyone think that if the Americans had not really landed on the moon, the Russians would have failed to notice that fact?


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Surely I can't have killed a thread, without even mentioning infinity. smile


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