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#10222 - 10/30/05 01:34 AM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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What about if one lady arrived at 1:00pm and the second at 1:01 and the third at 1:12, none would have to wait. Yes I did study probability theory, however I know that it is actually wrong!

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#10223 - 10/30/05 04:56 AM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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Yes I did study probability theory, however I know that it is actually wrong!
Sure, what other theories are actually wrong?

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#10224 - 10/30/05 12:54 PM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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I would like to see Dr Sarah to try this probability problem
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#10225 - 10/30/05 04:17 PM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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Because if you try to apply the theory to actual events you find it is way out. Do you agree that in a lottery where there are six balls out of forty-nine drawn according to the probability theory all have a one in 49 chance of coming. However after the first ball is drawn, it cannot come again, therefore the next probabilty becomes one in forty-eight, after the next one in forty-seven and so proceed ad infinitum. You even admitted when you worked on the three grannies that the probability changed if the grannies wanted to leave before 2 pm. That is the problem there are two many ifs and buts!

How many theories have been challenged and proven wrong. One day you'll see many of these proved wrong. We humans tend to think that just because some High IQ individual works out something its has to be true. If we look a little deeper we might find that actually it is a load of crap.

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#10226 - 10/30/05 06:00 PM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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That is the problem there are two many ifs and buts
You are a good example, that IQ brings individual only so far. Then one have to think and to learn and so forth.

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#10227 - 10/30/05 06:57 PM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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To extrasense 'You don't say whether or not you agree with me in my viewpoint on probability.'

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#10228 - 10/30/05 08:09 PM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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don't say whether or not you agree with me in my viewpoint on probability.
You have no say in the matter, since you are unable to solve the small problem I have suggested. It was a test, and you have failed.

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#10229 - 10/30/05 10:10 PM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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I consider that you have failed!

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#10230 - 10/30/05 10:15 PM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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What about p = 6/216 is that better!

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#10231 - 10/30/05 10:16 PM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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or 1/36

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#10232 - 10/30/05 10:17 PM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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or P= 1

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#10233 - 10/31/05 10:34 AM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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or P= 1
OK, I guess now you have cooled down a bit.

Let's say that there is only two ladies, and a bench just for one

What are the chances that one of the ladies will have to wait?

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#10234 - 11/01/05 12:49 AM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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I guess my IQ is not as high as it used to be! Are the other factors still the same?

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#10235 - 11/01/05 04:25 AM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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I guess my IQ is not as high as it used to be! Are the other factors still the same?
Yes, they are.

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#10236 - 11/01/05 05:30 AM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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"Some years ago the UN was running a competition where they wanted the result of a formula which was left half done. This was circulated to all the schools throughout the world. My daughter came and showed me the formula, I took one look at it and told her the answer is equivalent to Pythagoras's theorem. She laughed at me. I then proved it to her by calculation. She still didn't believe me. Well nine months later we read in the newspaper, that some guy in the States after years of research and with a fat book full of calculations had arrived at the same answer. My daughter was bashful. There you have it, what took an mathematics Graduate two years to calculate, took me two hours to work out." - "Philege"

Prove this claim. laugh
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#10237 - 11/01/05 11:31 AM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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Interesting problem, but it has a lot more to do with specialized training than intelligence.

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#10238 - 11/01/05 12:58 PM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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Interesting problem, but it has a lot more to do with specialized training than intelligence.
Not at all. It needs just definitions, which are known to anybody who attended the first lecture on probability theory.
So, what is your answer?

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#10239 - 11/01/05 01:07 PM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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Absolutely it has more to do with specialized training than intelligence. Knowing definitions IS specialized training, but even this is only part of the problem.

As you have already posted the correct answer I can only believe that you found this problem in a book which provided the result for you. It seems unlikely in the extreme that you could have figured it out yourself.

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#10240 - 11/01/05 01:11 PM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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Originally posted by TheFallibleFiend:
It seems unlikely in the extreme that you could have figured it out yourself.
You are not only fiend, you are deranged fiend.

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#10241 - 11/02/05 12:30 AM Re: IQ and Intelligence
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I am still working on this one, I have already used five fullscaps!

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