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#10110 - 12/10/05 03:32 PM Remembering Dreams
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I find that, if I remember anything about my dreams, it is far more profoundly the emotions I had during the dream than any type of event. No real question here other than what are dreams for?
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#10111 - 12/10/05 07:15 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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No one knows.

But stop dreaming and insanity will soon follow.
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#10112 - 12/10/05 11:40 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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In my life I have had a few nightmares that were horrific in the extreme. I have faced death, actually died, seen family members die and other horrors.

The thing is, that I have only ever woken up feeling slightly unsettled and this has soon receded.

When real people experience trauma they suffer PTSD and other such psychological conditions.

For me, the experience felt real - for me, it was real.

How does the brain seperate these incidents from reality? Why is there only a very mild psychological residue?

Is there something that is turned off in the brain whilst we sleep?

DA Morgan - do not tell me to google this, I know I should, in fact I'm off to do it now, but if anyone has their own thoughts...

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#10113 - 12/11/05 09:44 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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I have dreams, that come to real life in the future.

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#10114 - 12/11/05 10:30 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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OK that?s just creepy, do you have an example and are you a habitual drug user?
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#10115 - 12/11/05 10:33 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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Also is it just me that has no real memory of coherent images and just the memory of the emotions connected to them. Blacknad is right though, the memory of the emotions is not as strong as it seems they should be.
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#10116 - 12/12/05 12:09 AM Re: Remembering Dreams
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I have to agree with Tatiana. I have the same sort of dreams from time to time. They are very compelling when dreamed and very strange when they happen to come true. They are not regular dreams, they are more vivid and enhanced when dreamt. And they come true in some mighty strange ways. One would have to experience it for one's self to really understand it.

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#10117 - 12/12/05 03:02 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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I can't say that I've had prophetic dreams, but I've had a number of them where I realize that I'm dreaming in the dream, and then can control events that occur, to some extent. These kinds are highly amusing.
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#10118 - 12/12/05 03:59 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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aah, a lucid dream. That must be the most fun thing in the world.

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#10119 - 12/12/05 04:01 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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prophetic dreams, bah! Tell me what it was that you predited.

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#10120 - 12/12/05 04:05 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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Soilguy,
what do you mean to some extent?

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#10121 - 12/12/05 04:42 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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1) I've had many lucid dreams, before I realized what they were called. I got to the point where I realized I was dreaming and am now occasionally able to wake myself. In fact, I've gone off several times on tangents in my dreams, where I have entire segments of me trying to wake myself up. Sometimes I can largely control what's happening. Other times, I really can't control it, even though I'm sure it's a dream.

2) I've also had dreams where I had the illusion that *I* was separated from my body - astral projection. I tested it a little bit - to a very limited degree and convinced myself that there was nothing there. The *feeling* is overpowering, really.

3) I'm highly skeptical of precognitive dreams. I don't think people who have them are lying. I know very well how convincing and seemingly real some dreams can be.


4) I used to have terrible nightmares and was a bed-wetter till about 11 yo. I also used to be an insomniac. I had a recurring dream "start/finish" sequence that lasted for years:

Prelude: I'm walking up a staircase that seems to extend forever up and down. At each landing there are (I think) 4 doors. People are walking up and down the stairs and everyone seems to know exactly what they are doing, where they are going, and why. I'm in a tense and nearly panicked state, because I don't understand what's going on. There are people running past me going upward ... and sometimes there are people running screaming and terrified in the other direction. I'm really the outsider - or so I think. I keep trying to ask people how I got there and what I'm supposed to be
doing, but no one will even look at me. They're not like zombies ... it's more like I'm insignificant.

I get tired and need to take a break, so I stop at one landing and pick a door ... then the dream proper begins - usually this was a nightmare of soem kind, though I could seldom remember it the next day. Something would transpire during the evening ... by morning, I would once again find myself exiting the door and walking once again up the stairs.

As I approached my late teens the dream sequence changed. I was still on the stairs in the dream (I had quit bed-wetting at that time and while I was still an insomniac, I almost never had nightmares). Things were very different. This time I wasn't sure why I was on the stairs, but I had grown used to it. I just accepted that I was on the stairs and I felt very comfortable. Sometimes I'd see people running past me all panicked and I'd stop them and try to comfort them and calm them down. Before long there would be a small cadre of us, and we'd pick a door to enter together. But still, when morning came, out be exiting the door alone, and once again trudging up the stairs - no longer fearful or uncertain, but tired and accepting.

Nowadays I don't know if I dream much. For the most part I'm surrounded by scantily clad women (well, among those, at least who are clad at all). I only recall 2 nightmares as an older adult. I still occasionally have the astral projection dream - maybe once every two or three years. I haven't had the stairway sequence for ages.

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#10122 - 12/12/05 08:08 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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The only reoccurring dream that I have ever had was from between about 10-16 years (that?s the first time I?ve estimated the age range and its pretty obvious what?s going on but still...

always fairly abstract, the most coherent would be that I?m in a large hall full of boxes and they are flying about and coming to a complete stop suddenly and stacked neatly, continuously flashing around and stopping until they all stop and a tone starts and seems to be getting closer and closer. I always had a panicked feeling when the boxes were flying about and a nauseous feeling when the tone started, any way.. The tone getting closer then it stops and the boxes start flying and stopping again.

This seems to me that it was just a dream about being both in control and out of control of my life, but I haven't had that dream for about 8 years now. Just, like I said at the top, unremembered dreams when I have only the memory of the emotions.
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#10123 - 12/13/05 01:40 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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I'm always being chased by something. And I'm always with a team to combat what I'm being chased by (not literally always). The most interesting things that I have been chased by include dinosaurs, a sinister UFO, some weird colourful monsters, some FBI- type people and five robots that are each specialised for one sense and collectively hunt as a pack

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#10124 - 12/13/05 03:01 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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Quote:
Originally posted by Rob:
Soilguy,
what do you mean to some extent?
Well, perhaps to a full extent. But there seem to be a lot more details to a dream than I can track. Even during a lucid dream, stuff pops up that *I didn't order*, so to speak.

I don't know if you would call the *consciousness* that one has during a lucid dream to be truly consciousness, but for the sake of this explanation, let me call it that. Stuff also happens during these dreams that I don't *consiously* control. I have general control.
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#10125 - 12/13/05 03:07 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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There is an herb that promotes lucid dreaming, but the name of it slips my mind at the moment
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#10126 - 12/13/05 06:22 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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Sometimes I've had lucid nightmares, but I can't wake myself up. And when I was most terrified, I've called on Christ and instantly awoke.
In my waking life, I'm doubtful about the whole Jesus concept, and I think the Bible is as irrational as our superegos, but obviously, in my subconscience the abstract Christ entity is powerful.
Strange.
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#10127 - 12/25/05 06:54 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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If you were raised as a believer in all that, then that's hardly suprising, as I assume any psycologist would tell you.

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#10128 - 12/25/05 10:38 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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I'm always being chased by something. And I'm always with a team to combat what I'm being chased by (not literally always). The most interesting things that I have been chased by include dinosaurs, a sinister UFO, some weird colourful monsters, some FBI- type people and five robots that are each specialised for one sense and collectively hunt as a pack

It appears Rob that either you read to many comics or you watch too many sci-fi DVDs/Movies
Lots of dreams are influenced by what we see and do during the day. At night when the material is being 'processed' in our brains this comes out in the form of dreams.

Funny enough I also have dreamt of events which happened. For example I dreamed of the Concord the night before it crashed. I could hear the people screaming and bright flames burning, I knew aftewards because of the screaming noises of an jet engine which I clearly heard in my dream. Here's one dream which has not yet come true, I once dreamt of a huge rock which covered a large portion of the sky which crashed into the earth, this happened somewhere in America, this dream was so shocking that for days I was worried by it. For the earth was wracked with shaking like has never happened before, and a swirling cloud of dust enveloped the earth making it dark as night, there was debris hurtling wildly through the air, it was terrible. After many days the earth ceased shaking but the darkness remained. There was silence everywhere. I tried to move but was unable to do so, it was like there was a thick glass separating me from the destruction I could see. Then in the distance I saw a small light weaving through the darkness, it would disappear and re-appear again. It appeared to be getting closer. I could make out a figure dressed in white carrying a lantern on a stick. After peering to get a clearer view I could see that there was a long line of people walking behind this light and they were chanting. I strained my ear to hear what they were saying until I made out the words. "This is the day of the Lord, He comes like a thief in the night." Then I awoke screaming with terror. Surpised that I was still alive and in my bedroom.

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#10129 - 12/25/05 10:41 PM Re: Remembering Dreams
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Hey Rob how did you get three stars, I dreamt you only had one! Tee Hee.

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