Blacknad wrote:
"I know quite a few Creationists, I wouldn't accuse them all of being dishonest, just lacking in good dispassionate scientific methodology."

I would agree if we are talking about the parishioners rather than the clergy. Having had more than a few serious discussions with members of the clergy I have become convinced that they fall into roughly one of three categories.

2% ... seriously delusional
3% ... in need of criminal prosecution.
95% ... knowingly telling "white lies" with the best of intentions (more on this in November if you ask)


DA Morgan