1. Energy is borrowed from the vacuum energy to form the universe.
so where did the energy come from to form the vacuum?
your starting your universe creation process with something , starting with something is not allowed when creating.
In the dimensionality of the cosmos, everything that can happen is (happening) now.
you must first have a cosmos in order for there to be a dimensionality of the cosmos.
conservation of energy tells us that.
because you cannot create energy.
so those who claim that there was no creation are thinking illogically.
also , you will never , ever , be able to prove that creation was not possible.
that is what you are attempting isnt it , orac?
try this thought experiment , using only your thoughts.
I can honestly say this , although orac will not admit it
he is about to find a wall or has already found the wall that
tells him that creation is the only option.