Originally Posted By: Revlgking
With G-0-D in mind, think of it this way: All "love", especially of the agape kind, is creative of things that are Good.


Emotional love, attached love, jealous love, personal love is responsible for the distortions of
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1.the love of God or Christ for humankind.
(whatever that is) In your determination God has so many limited connotations,
Originally Posted By: Revlgking
long ago, and for my own reasons--with no intention of being dogmatic--I dropped using the noun "God"--the word has so many limitations
God's love being associated to agape must not be exclusive of limiting connotations.
You might need to make up another kind of love to go with the made up G-0-D acronym.. How about A-G-A-P-E = A Good And Purposeful Expression... wink But then we always end up with the subjective personal idealism of what is good or purposeful, and what is the expression of no-thing
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the love of Christians for other persons, corresponding to the love of God for humankind.
There is a loaded definition. Christian being subject to so many negative connotations.
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unselfish love of one person for another without sexual implications; brotherly love.
This sounds somewhat better, but then some will love their brother more than a stranger, and here the ego will not necessarily universally love all humanity equally as long as the other can be seen as a blood/life sucking enigma. Right Rev?

So many things without a purpose... what shall a good man do? crazy I know.. Make up something to explain it all away.. wink
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love feast ( defs. 1, 2 ) .
So the twisting of agape thru all types of love that are not immersed in the experience of God or the Christ are abundantly dispersed within the history of humanity and represented in all human conflicts.

Originally Posted By: Revlgking

Good is knowledge-based science (truth-based).
Anything of the unknown being something other than Good? And are we speaking of relative truths that change in definition with belief and science?
Being that science, has not yet made any affirmations regarding God, or G-0-D, or spirituality in general as a truth, but possibly a belief, your G-0-D is not yet truth based.
Originally Posted By: Revlgking

Powered by a Good IMAGINATION, Good comes out of no thing, 0, and can be applied to solve the problem of pain and suffering--in other words, things that are a Delight.
I think you may have some difficulty in scientifically establishing a truth base regarding the no-thing, and how it applies to solving problems of pain and suffering. Especially if the no-thing is exclusive to your definitions of good and doesn't apply to everything else.

So far the majority of those who expressly claimed to be good and of God (have been a bit on the narcissistic side), and who have taken part in humanities conflicts to cleanse the earth of suffering have in themselves only perpetuated their reality of what is and isn't God.
What you focus on grows don'tcha know...

Those who seek to solve problems often become part of the problem as they put their energies into establishing the realities of the problem as fact and in truth NOT of GOD.. because somehow God doesn't have a grip on everything, and evil or that which is not good having such an equal power to the good (Can't have good without bad in duality) even if they are imagined.
The examples could be the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition and the witch hunts which in some respects still continue to this day in the form of religious Jihad.

Those with the best intentions claiming to be themselves Good and imaginative do not in and of themselves always capture the spirit of God, but instead project their imagination and all of its limitations of What God should look like according to their beliefs.

Without the experience of Union with God in all thought feeling and action, no definition of good imagination is an exception to subjective realities of personal opinion and the evolution of human consciousness.

The enlightened ego is not free of subjective determination and the judgments that project evil all around ones self in the creation of God with all of those negative/limited connotations, and the lack of personal delights.

Last edited by Tutor Turtle; 02/02/12 03:10 AM. Reason: God LOVES to change everything so nothing can be more real than anything else

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