In QM there really is no orbiting of an electron like the old school physical representation you have above it's just a weird waveform thats what they are doing in bosenova explosions.

There really is no physical "spinning" per say in a classic physics world sense ... spin is a property of the waveform behaviour.

Here is there view of a hydrogen atom
http://www.hydrogenlab.de/


This does a nice presentation
http://www.physikdidaktik.uni-karlsruhe....ptseite_uk.html

If you walk through the slides it will show you the current sort of topology

Oh wow wikipedia have updated there entry as well ... not bad now
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_atom

The waveform representation is second image down on the right.


Like any waveforms they are subject to interference and resonances and thats what they are doing in bosenova explosions.


Thats how they rip the atoms apart the waveforms seem to destructively interfer and get ejected to somewhere else in the space or phased in a way we can't see them there are a number of views on that.

Thats why in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosenova they talk about -> "The 'missing' atoms are almost certainly still around in some form, but just not in a form that we can detect them in our current experiment,"

We have very strong evidence you can't destroy the waves it's a fundemental of QM theory ... Quantum information can not be created nor destroyed. We have attempted in experiments to erase QM information and what we find is it jumps ignoring normal physical rules (http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-quantum-no-hiding-theorem-experimentally.html)

So we say the Qunatum information wave is around somewhere the trick is to find it :-)

In QM the collapse of the universe inwards would represent a state we call degenerate matter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_matter) which is a rather weird thing

Quote:

Imagine that a plasma is cooled and compressed repeatedly. Eventually, we will not be able to compress the plasma any further, because the exclusion principle states that two fermions cannot share the same quantum state. When in this state, since there is no extra space for any particles, we can also say that a particle's location is extremely defined. Therefore, since (according to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle) then we must say that their momentum is extremely uncertain since the particles are located in a very confined space. Therefore, even though the plasma is cold, the particles must be moving very fast on average. This leads to the conclusion that if you want to compress an object into a very small space, you must use tremendous force to control its particles' momentum.


And thats where the weird part comes from in QM :-)





Edited by Orac (09/15/11 06:42 AM)
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