Originally Posted By: socratus
After big bang all particles flew in different sides.
Suppose , that every particle is the owner of some information.

Why would I suppose such a thing? Information is not a characteristic intrinsic to matter; rather it is a product of complex systems. Even the physical sense of information doesn't work in this context - digital physics works on the assumption that all physical interactions are deterministic; but even then the "information" is not intrinsic to matter. And the latter - digital physics - is largely rejected as it is not compatible with quantum dynamics.

Originally Posted By: socratus
every particle has the own information and after about 20 billions years they accidentally united and created accidentally everything including a man. In this situation according to probability theory this process must take not 20^ 9 but more than 10^100 years.

Sorry, that is a stupid statement that ignores the past 1500 years of research into the physical sciences. There is nothing random about the interactions of atoms and their sub-atomic particles - gravity, weak and strong nuclear force and electromagnetism dictate the interaction of particles with each other.

In fact, the "evolution" of the universe is a prime example of determinism - as in the opposite of randomness - in action. After the big bang there were irregularities in the density of matter (we know this because we can see these irregularities in the CMB). the denser regions have more gravity, and thus collapsed inwards on themselves, forming large clouds of gas. These clouds of gas collapsed further under their own gravity, and in doing so acquired angular momentum. As these clouds collapsed further, they developed medium-sized denser regions which gravity again collapsed. And as these medium-sized clouds collapsed, they formed smaller irregularities which also collapsed under their own gravity.

The largest of those clouds became galaxies, the medium sized one turn into solar systems, and the smallest turned into the stars and planets. Nothing random about it - just gravity doing what gravity does, in a totally deterministic fashion.

Now, since its a non-random process, why the heck would you use a mathematical process intended for dealing with random systems? I'd also point out your number is meaningless; without details of how you calculated that value we have no way to ascertain its accuracy, even within your incorrect assumption of randomness.
Originally Posted By: socratus
How does zero information further arrive to a very high informational level ? "
Maybe this way of evolution also take more than 10^100 years ( ? !)

Nope. Galactic evolution, as described above, occurs quickly, driven by this not-so-magical non-random force called "gravity". And, as pointed out in the beginning, there is no intrinsic "information" in matter - information is an emergent property in higher systems.

Originally Posted By: socratus

I prefer not accidental way but way of evolution.

But since the formation of the universe was no more accidental than gravity, your point is moot. Start with a false assumption, come to a false conclusion.

Originally Posted By: socratus
So, we again have old philosophical problem: Does God play dice?

QED says yes. Rationalism says there is no god...

Originally Posted By: socratus
Materialism or Idealism quackery?

Fixed that for ya!

Originally Posted By: socratus
What is relation between idealism and materialism?

Human conceit.

Originally Posted By: socratus

Someone wrote that the chances for the universe to expand,
for the atom to exist, for the earth to bear life and for humanity to find place is as little as on to a number so big that it would require 244 zeros to write it down.

Actually, the probability of the above is 1.0, seeing as it happened.

And if creationist quotes are your evidence, you're in big trouble.

Bryan


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