a) I am at a loss to understand what Socratus was trying to say. I've waded through it twice--- I can read the words OK, but they just don't make any sense when linked together.

b) I can see your point Rev. I, as you know, do not believe that the Bible is the word of God, but I thought that the incident with Thomas, inconvenient though it may be to those who wish to ignore it, is accepted as the words of Jesus. Who may or not be a god, or a son of a god, depending on personal belief. It is surely belief in what ever it is that one believes in that is the foundation of personal faith. And without personal faith there can be no belief. Therefore it is possible, indeed encumbant that a believer believes! With or without proof!

Last edited by Ellis; 05/06/09 02:45 AM. Reason: typo- still can't type!