Mike: The melting of ice floating on the Arctic Ocean will not change sea level. It's the melting of ice that's NOT floating on saltwater that will change sea level (ice caps on islands, Greenland, Antarctica and mountain glaciers). The very fact that there's open water up there should at least make people think something's going on.

Dehammer: At what point does disappearing sea ice, melting glaciers and the encroachment of temperate species into areas formerly too cold to support them make you think that there's something to this global warming thing?

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