Originally posted by Blacknad:
Originally posted by dehammer:
What would it take for you to acknowledge that there is evidence of political motive for the global warming scare...
Can you explain the political motive for the Global Warming 'Scare'? did you every see what happen when the same politicians began ragging about the ozone hole. companies that had made freon went out of business and the political party hacks that came up with the newer stuff got rich. is that something you want to see done with the new age ones.
how about all the politicians that have been elected claiming they were going to help clean up the co2 and pollutants that were going to destroy the earth. Id say that was pretty good motive for jumping on the band wagon.
[QUOTE]Evidence against:
1. Scientists have been warning about Global Warming for decades and governments are still either slow to catch on and way behind the science or still in denial. If there was something for political powers to gain from Global Warming then they would have seized upon it much sooner.
are you talking about IPCC? that is a major political party. In case you have not notice, they did not use one scientist's summery in their summery. the one they created was strictly created by politicians. are you talking about the scientist that claimed in the 1970's that we were headed for a global ice age?
2. Generally, at the centre of the political process lies a desire to increase people's dependence upon the state. The Global Warming 'Scare' has the exact opposite effect. It drives people to become self dependent for energy by finding alternative renewable energy sources that are less likely to be monopolized by government and Big Business - and also less likely to generate massive tax revenues.
name one that has really become viable that did not require huge amount of licensing fees. so far the only thing that is close is wind mills and those are not really working that well. do you have any idea how much the licensing fees cost in most places. let me give you a hint. all of the big wind farms are owned by the same big business that you say the work takes power from.
3. A response at governmental levels requires a significant expenditure and funding for green energy projects. Most governments try to avoid situations where they have to throw away money - and if Global warming was a politically motivated scare, then that is exactly what they would be doing.
then please explain why they are trying to raise taxes to cover "green cost". going green means more tax dollars to cover the expenses (some of which are covered by other taxes as well)
There are many reasons why Global Warming is unlikely to be a politically motivated scare. Maybe you meant something else by your statement.
If not, what is your evidence? Convince me that you are not to be lumped in with the mindless conspiracy theorists who don't believe we put a man on the moon.
Blacknad.
how about the fact that when politicians quote the IPCC report they don't included the statement that the term "climate changes" includes solar and other causes of global warming, but instead the politicians use the quote to prove that man has done a major increase in the temperature.
or how about the government agency that published the temperatures of the last century, but did so quietly because it showed the temperature has fallen in the last 5 years. when the politicians use the chart it does not include the last 5 years.
or how about the fact that AL (chicken little) Gore used Greenland coldest year of the last few decades as his bench mark to prove that the melt off has increased.
or how about how all of the politicians that use the snow fall reports from Greenland fail to mention that the year to year variation of the snowfall there and in arctic are so much that they any claim that there is less snow fall in recent years is just so much hot air.
if you think these are just me blowing hot air, try googling them for yourself. or at least read some of the links i and others have provided in other threads.
