Originally posted by DA Morgan:
The problem, once again, is that politics has put itself squarely into a discussion where it is wholly inappropriate.
Whether global warming exists is apolitical
Whether humans are causing some or all of the affect is apolitical.
What we should do about it if it exists and if it is a problem ... that is political.
When Karl Rove and the rest of his anti-science crowd step out of the way we will make some progress.
There are a lot of reasons why political expediency is trying to maintain the status quo. What incentive does Saudi Arabia have to see a decrease in petroleum usage? How about Iran? Norway? Venezuela? Mexico? Kuwait? the UAE? Russia? etc. How about Exxon? BP? PetroMex?
Now against the power and influence of those governments and multi-billion dollar corporations are arrayed GreenPeace and a handful of other non-profits supporting themselves on donations.
That someone like dehammer can claim some sort of equality between these two groups is laughable. I think, in everyone's heart, they know we are heading for a brick wall at 75mph. They just don't want to acknowledge it just as they don't want to acknowledge the simple fact that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny won't save their moral souls.
get real. politics is about power. who has it and how does not. the global warming politicians like gore and IPCC have the power, and they want more. they want to control things like corporations and things which are not in their realm. how can they do this? simple by passing laws that force companies and such to give more power to the goverments. this give goverments more control over everything. how can you not see this? how can you not see whats wrong with this? the people who are behind the global warming scare are the same ones that were behind the global freeze scare and the ozone hole scare and things like that. the chemicals that they claimed cause the ozone hole have dropped considerable, but the ozone hole has not changed. it shrinks and grows, grows and shrinks. the amount of various chemicals in the hole change drastically, but it does not change the size of the hole.
the same was done with global warming /freezing. the tempature changes several degrees yet it does not really change anything. what does change, what did change with the ozone hole, is who has the power. it went from people to the goverment. that is the way it always does with these scares. are they people who do these studies doing the same as the ones that are paid by the oil companies, you bet your bippy. they are being paid by money raised by political hacks wanting more power. they cherry pick the data they use to make their side look like it has more info. by changing a few words in their report, the IPCC lumped solar caused global warming in with polution caused global warming and claimed it was all caused by man. they have basically rewritten history to make it look like there was no global warming before the industrial revolution. that means that the entire global warming from the entire history of earth is due to polution. that is completely wrong.
you bet your backside that its all politics as usual. you cant discuss global warming without it.
