DA,
Dawkins would "try to meet the theologians on their own territory." -DA

Exactly! This is what I'm talking about, re: basic assumption. They don't accept ours and we don't accept theirs, so no argument will make sense to the other side.
The only way to try is to either look at things from the other side or get them to look at it from your side.

my comment about it being "well styled" addresses your monty python comment; somewhat tautological also.
DA & anyman: Both of your's posts above refer to "facts."
That's always a sign that the basic assumptions are vastly different; and that's why I smiled (i wouldn't say "amused," DA; but more like a bemused contentment of (been there, done that) type of thing. Sorry, this is way too vague and hard to describe; subjective. But anyway

...sorry, computer froze. I better log off while I've got it back. That was enogh for now anyway. 6:13-6:19 = 6 minutes to reboot.
Thanks all,
~Sam


Pyrolysis creates reduced carbon! ...Time for the next step in our evolutionary symbiosis with fire.